James Toney Vs Mike Tyson!

[THE REAL NINJA]

The Toney that fought Holyman woud've beat a prime Tyson. Styles make fights and Toney has the perfect style for a Prime Tyson.

Toney needs to be at 215 or 220, if the out of shape Toney from the Rahman and Peter fight shows up, a prime Tyson would've won.

BTW Tyson will lose easily today to an out of shape Toney. I don't think Tyson can beat the top 20 HW's today, if you lose to a guys like Mcbum then you really should never fight again.

Why ? He's not fast on his feet, is not big, does not have good power, What makes it a good match ?...........................JPala I gave you good karma for a well thought out post . Giving someone bad k who has only 2 post makes no sense .

[GunStar]

Why ? He's not fast on his feet, is not big, does not have good power, What makes it a good match ?...........................JPala I gave you good karma for a well thought out post . Giving someone bad k who has only 2 post makes no sense .

I agree with you about the Karma, this **** always happens to the new people, I will also hit some good K.

Toney always fights best when people try to take his head apart, Tyson will be no different. Also Toney will def get into Tyson's head. I see Tyson getting countered all night long.

[THE REAL NINJA]

I agree with you about the Karma, this **** always happens to the new people, I will also hit some good K.

Toney always fights best when people try to take his head apart, Tyson will be no different. Also Toney will def get into Tyson's head. I see Tyson getting countered all night long.

I can't really agree but I see where you're going with it so i'm cool with that.

[GunStar]

I can't really agree but I see where you're going with it so i'm cool with that.

Fine, we can always agree to disagree!

[American_Ninja]

i love tyson

but the tyson of today couldnt knock the head of a mannequin
he is shot........he is done.........its over

a prime tyson imo wouldnt have to much trouble beating toney though

Tell that to his sparring partner Sanders.

[micky_knox]

Tell that to his sparring partner Sanders.

thats a joke right?

[The Surgeon]

Hello all. This is my first post on the forums. I've visited a lot before this and have seen lots of interesting discussions and debates. For my first post I'd just like to start a discussion of my own about my two of my favorite fighters.

Here's the fantasy scenario: Although Mike Tyson doesn't really fight anymore, what if he got his conditioning and skills as good as he could right now and he faced off against James Toney at heavyweight. Who would win? This is a fight that I don't think I could bear to watch, with one of my two favorite fighters inevitably having to lose...

However, if I had to pick who would win between the best possible Tyson right now Vs the best possible Toney, I'd go with Tyson. Of all the current big name heavies, I think Toney would be the kind of opponent best suited for Tyson, physically and stylistically. Tyson's abilities are no longer great enough to allow him to overcome the physically advantaged opponents that he once could. However, Toney has none of the physical advantages over Tyson that other heavies do. Furthermore, Tyson is really only vulnerable against opponents with heavy punching power, which is something Toney lacks at heavyweight. Tyson's best work is of course on the inside, where he can throw single power punches or combinations of them, while slipping at the same time. Toney's best work is also on the inside, where can land tight couterpunches at all sorts of angles. However, I think that Toney's inside counterpunching would be least effective against Tyson’s incredible inside dynamics and movement and his ability to deliver fast and accurate combinations of power shots. Finally, Toney would lack the means to prevent Tyson from getting on the inside, or at least punish him for doing so the way a bigger opponent could. I think that Tyson might be the only kind of opponent who could legitimately outpoint Toney but I would even venture to guess Tyson by late TKO/stoppage.

Anyway, I think this would be a very interesting matchup to see, or at least think about. Who do you guys think would win this fantasy scenario?

Hey, Good topic, im a HUGE Tyson fan and a big Toney fan but Mike wouldnt last the course with Toney these days man. Thats the sad truth, Mike couldnt last with a former middle! Prime Tyson - ****in blowout! Toney is awsum tho

[The Surgeon]

The Toney that fought Holyman woud've beat a prime Tyson. Styles make fights and Toney has the perfect style for a Prime Tyson.

Toney needs to be at 215 or 220, if the out of shape Toney from the Rahman and Peter fight shows up, a prime Tyson would've won.

BTW Tyson will lose easily today to an out of shape Toney. I don't think Tyson can beat the top 20 HW's today, if you lose to a guys like Mcbum then you really should never fight again.

Mate ur trippin if u think James Toney beats a peak Iron Mike Tyson! Not tryin to diss u but to me that just sounds crazy man!