Prime vs Prime, Shave Mosley vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. + add Pac at 135

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  • Alibata
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    #21
    Originally posted by DLT
    What does that mean? Floyd has been in there with alot of great fighters. You havent seen enough of Floyd to make a decision?
    I've seen plenty of Floyd. He's got skill but he hasn't fought the type of opposition that would test that skill. Shane has been in with better and badder opponents than Floyd. Floyd has never been in againts guys as good as De La Hoya, Forrest, Vargas, Wright. The biggest wins for Floyd were againts Castillo who he had trouble and with Corrales, and Zab. Granted Mosely lost to Wright who was to big for him and Forrest just had his number. He beat Vargas and the legendary De La Hoya which is by far better than anyone Floyd has faced. To assume I havent seen enough of Floyd just shows that you are a know it all that believes what wants to believe. In addition, Mosley comes to fight and leaves nothing at the table, and is funner to watch than Floyd.
    Last edited by Alibata; 11-20-2006, 04:35 AM.

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    • DLT
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      #22
      Originally posted by Alibata
      I've seen plenty of Floyd. He's got skill but he hasn't fought the type of opposition that would test that skill. Shane has been in with better and badder opponents than Floyd. Floyd has never been in againts guys as good as De La Hoya, Forrest, Vargas, Wright. The biggest wins for Floyd were againts Castillo who he had trouble and with Corrales, and Zab. Granted Mosely lost to Wright who was to big for him and Forrest just had his number. He beat Vargas and the legendary De La Hoya which is by far better than anyone Floyd has faced. To assume I havent seen enough of Floyd just shows that you are a know it all that believes what wants to believe. In addition, Mosley comes to fight and leaves nothing at the table, and is funner to watch than Floyd.
      Your a fool. I wasnt telling you that you havent seen enough of Floyd. I put a question mark behind it because I was saying it like a question. No one out there who is a boxing fan would say that they havent seen enough of Floyd. Shane might have had some big fights later on but Floyd fought 10x better competiton at 130 & 135 then Shane ever did.

      Also, how would those Shane opponents help your decison. He only really has the Oscar fights that he can stand on. Sure he fought Winky but was killed both times, got killed by Forrest, and he beat Vargas but everyone knew that Vargas was shot by then.

      I still dont understand how you can say that you have to see more of Floyd to fully judge something. I could see if we were talking about 147 but theyve both already fought at 135. Also, even if we were talking about 147 there is no one who says that they have to see more of Floyd. They either can make a reasonable choice or if anything, they say that have to see more of Shane because he hasnt been there in so long and last time he was there he didnt look very good. I could see you saying that you have to see more of Floyd if the fight was at 154 since he hasnt fought there

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      • K-Nan
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        #23
        Mosely would win on points in a VERY close decision/ SD. Can't comment on Pac, however. There are too many what-ifs.

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        • Alibata
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          #24
          Originally posted by DLT
          Your a fool. I wasnt telling you that you havent seen enough of Floyd. I put a question mark behind it because I was saying it like a question. No one out there who is a boxing fan would say that they havent seen enough of Floyd. Shane might have had some big fights later on but Floyd fought 10x better competiton at 130 & 135 then Shane ever did.

          Also, how would those Shane opponents help your decison. He only really has the Oscar fights that he can stand on. Sure he fought Winky but was killed both times, got killed by Forrest, and he beat Vargas but everyone knew that Vargas was shot by then.

          I still dont understand how you can say that you have to see more of Floyd to fully judge something. I could see if we were talking about 147 but theyve both already fought at 135. Also, even if we were talking about 147 there is no one who says that they have to see more of Floyd. They either can make a reasonable choice or if anything, they say that have to see more of Shane because he hasnt been there in so long and last time he was there he didnt look very good. I could see you saying that you have to see more of Floyd if the fight was at 154 since he hasnt fought there
          point taken. I guess I am just pissed at floyd because he is wasting that talent by not taking bigger fights.

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          • AllEyesOpen
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            #25
            Mosley could beat Pacman & possibly PBF in a very close fight, Mosley was a monster at that weight. I'd also have to agree with DLT in that I don't see how one would have to see more of Floyd, when after 3 rounds were able to see "The new look Pacquiao". Personally I could tell from the refs instructions that Morales just didn't seem to be all there(I guess it was just one last payday) & Pacman was ready for war, I'm not taking away from Pac victory, but I would have to see him in a full fight before I could say he was "The New Pacquiao".

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            • dino
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              #26
              pac isnt in neither one of these guys leagues

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              • -EX-
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                #27
                Mosley is stronger than Floyd, but I think Floyd could pull it out. Shane is wild and Floyd wouldn't let Shane land cleanly. Floyd's defense is much better and he is much more accurate than Shane.

                I think Shane would defeat Pacquiao.

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                • amagnin
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                  #28
                  Shane in his prime v. PBF would be a great fight. Shane would be one of the only guys Floyd has fought that is as fast or faster. Shane also had great power at 135, he was KOing people crazy. But I think Floyd could win a close UD because of his defense and the fact that Shane has always been there to be hit. That being said I think Shane brings the fight to him the whole time and definitely is capable of pulling out a UD or KO. I think both of these guys are just too big for Pac considering that he is basically what Floyd is at 147 or 154.

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #29
                    Floyd by close decision, although Mosely would be in the fight the whole way. Shane beat people down at 135, but he never fought anyone like Floyd.

                    Shane stops Pacquiao at 135. Shane would be too big, too strong for Pacquiao to do anything to him. Shane has only really lost to fighters who were much bigger and stronger than him physically.

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                    • psychopath
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Abe Attell
                      Shane vs Floyd

                      Shane vs Pac at 135
                      Shane vs PBF will be a very close exciting ACTION fight with PBF having the clear advantage on footwork, but Pac??? I really doubt it.

                      Pac's best fighting weight class is at 130. He may still be a force to be reckoned with if he goes up to 135 but not in the league of Shane and PBF.

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