Can non-threshold susbtances have threshold type tests

[ADP02]

You are not reading what the CAS panel said correctly BOTH TIMEs, if that is truly what you believe. You are doubling down now on the CAS panel's statements and so then we have a CHALLENGE!!!!


But your constant DEFLECTIONs are proving that you are not so confident in those statements anymore. Imagine, you fed that to the judges the first time and at least one judge based it on those statements BUT you are wavering.

At least, that is what it appears to me!

You are doing like Floyd Mayweather did. Every time you requested something, I accepted and or provided to you a very reasonable solution BUT then you ended up putting another roadblock.



Examples:
1)
Travestyny: Scope cannot be on all non-threshold susbtances.

ADP02: Well, even though you used those comments for ALL non-threshold susbtances I will agree to omit that. OK DEAL, lets get it on!



2)
Travestyny: Scope cannot be on blood testing just urine testing methodologies.

ADP02: OK DEAL, lets get it on!


3)
Travestyny: Lets make the discussion on a different thing ….. the case only.

ADP02: I started the thread and challenged you on something completely different. Lets get it on!



4)
Travestyny: Well those statements of mine that I made a "BILLION" times and told you that I couldn't be more CLEAR, they are VAGUE! Can you make my statements more clear?

ADP02: OK DEAL, lets get it on!



5)
Travestyny: Well, now I want you to first give me points …..

ADP02: What I will do is this. You come up with a wager that will take care of the 2 debates. Come up with a reasonable number. Lets get it on!



6)
Travestyny: Well, the thing is I do not trust you. How about you do not give me the points this time …..

ADP02: What I will do is this. I can give the points to a 3rd party Lets get it on!



7)
Travestyny: Well, I really do not care about the BAP testing discussion and well, lets just let it go and enjoy life …..

ADP02: We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!! Actually, even more since you brought this up 1.5 years ago as well!!! Now that I challenged you, you want to tell me, stop? Lets get it on!



I see someone wavering and NOT confident in what he provided to the judges and doubled down on those statements 1.5 years later.


We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!!


We appeared to have agreed to the discussion. The limits on the discussion.

YOU EVEN ACCEPTED!!!!


LETS GET IT ON!!!!



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I made it be part of the scope???? LMAO. So before you were complaining that I was trying to change the scope, and now you're saying that I was allowed to change the scope.


You're not very good at this and you're exposing even more how dishonest you are. Now you're saying I was allowed to change the scope...when it fits your agenda.





So why were you lying about the scope, ADP?



You should be ashamed of yourself!

This thread isn't going so well for you, is it? You are getting exposed and destroyed yet again. Tuck your tail and move on.

Oh. And pay me the points that you owe for losing. RIGHTFULLY losing. Which is why you keep ducking the questions that expose you.

1. What were the other interpretive criteria that the panel stated were not threshold criteria. Can you list them?

2. Did you not admit during the debate that the BAP was out of scope?

3. Have you paid your debt from the last debate that you lost 4-0, or are you still welching on what you owe?

8)
Travestyny: Man, I have to think of another roadblock, SH$T!!!! What am I going to do??? THINK!!!! I found it!
You said that what I said was really not in scope, so there! (ie. I hope ADP02 buys this BS because I am running out of ideas, man!!!)


ADP02: Repeat and rinse #7 response.
We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!! Actually, even more since you brought this up 1.5 years ago as well!!! Now that I challenged you, you want to tell me, this GARBAGE DUCKING DEFLECTION??? Lets get it on!




Would you have been this patient if I DUCKED YOU after all of this time? My previous post will answer that one!!!!




After 8 roadblocks, I think that I can say,


BUSTED


YOU WILL DO ANYTHING TO


DUCK!!!!!



Unbelievably embarrassing!!!

[travestyny]

8)
Travestyny: Man, I have to think of another roadblock, SH$T!!!! What am I going to do??? THINK!!!! I found it!
You said that what I said was really not in scope, so there! (ie. I hope ADP02 buys this BS because I am running out of ideas, man!!!)

Did you say to stick to the scope?

OH and another thing. Why do you not stay in scope?

Did you say the BAP was not in scope?

2) WHILE OUT OF SCOPE, this specific criteria had an "and/OR" in which the panel was describing. In that if there were "additional evidence" that can be used to show evidence that the athlete was using EPO, it can be used.

Now you are saying that I somehow changed the scope....and you were ok with that....because it fits your agenda???

You made it be part of the SCOPE.

SO BEFORE IT WAS "STICK TO THE SCOPE." AND NOW IT'S "LET'S PRETEND THAT YOU CHANGED THE SCOPE BECAUSE I ****ED UP."


YOU ARE THE BIGGEST BlTCH AROUND. I'M SO HAPPY I RUINED YOUR LIFE!!!!!!

ADMIT THAT YOU GOT EXPOSED YOU SLIMY BlTCH!!!!!

[travestyny]

8)

DUCK!!!!!
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DUCK? ONLY PERSON WHO IS DUCKING IS YOU WHO WON'T ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ANYMORE, WON'T ADMIT YOU LOST, AND WON'T PAY UP ON THE BET THAT YOU LOST IN THE FIRST DEBATE!!!!!!! PLUS YOUR BLUNDERS AND LIES GOT EXPOSEDDDDD. BAD BAD WEEK FOR ADP!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!


WHY WON'T YOU ANSWERRRRRR?????

1. What were the other interpretive criteria that the panel stated were not threshold criteria. Can you list them?

2. Did you not admit during the debate that the BAP was out of scope?

3. Have you paid your debt from the last debate that you lost 4-0, or are you still welching on what you owe?


KEEP DUCKING. YOU STILL LOST 4-0. PAY UP BlTCH. BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
GIMME THOSE POINTS YOU SLIMY BlTCH!!!!

[travestyny]

LET'S HAVE A LITTLE RECAP OF WHAT HAPPENED IN HERE, SHALL WE?

1. We both agreed to a challenge, and then when I said, "now let's find judges," you tucked tail and declined.

2. You revealed that all of this bullshlt was really just about our previous debate that you lost 4-0, but you've declined all rematches because you are too pvssy.

3. You also revealed that this thread was about the BAP and how it relates to the previous debate, but you were exposed after I found a quotation from you stating that the BAP was OUT OF SCOPE of that debate, leaving you with NOTHING. You then tried to claim that I somehow changed the scope just by pure mention of something and you accepted it, though there is explicit evidence that you've not only stated that the scope can't be changed, but you cried over many pages accusing me of changing the scope. But but but....in your head I somehow changed it and it fit your agenda, so it was all good. But but but but....in your head if I changed it and it didn't fit your agenda, that's disallowed.

4. You refuse to admit that the Court of Arbitration for Sport said the WADA standard criteria is not a threshold. You won't address it at all because you know that it further solidifies your loss. Not that it needed to since you already lost 4-0.

5. YOU STILL REFUSE TO ACCEPT YOUR LOSS IN THE FIRST DEBATE AND STILL REFUSE TO PAY THE DEBT THAT YOU OWE FROM SAID DEBATE.

IT'S OVER SON. YOU GOT EXPOSED IN ALL SORTS OF LIES, WELCHING ON YOUR DEBT, BACKING OUT OF CHALLENGES. YOU'VE UTTERLY EMBARRASSED YOURSELF!

AND GIVE ME THE POINTS THAT YOU OWE FROM YOUR 4-0 LOSS YOU SLIMY BlTCH.
IT'S OVER.

R.I.P.

[ADP02]

You are not reading what the CAS panel said correctly BOTH TIMEs, if that is truly what you believe. You are doubling down now on the CAS panel's statements and so then we have a CHALLENGE!!!!


But your constant DEFLECTIONs are proving that you are not so confident in those statements anymore. Imagine, you fed that to the judges the first time and at least one judge based it on those statements BUT you are wavering.

At least, that is what it appears to me!

You are doing like Floyd Mayweather did. Every time you requested something, I accepted and or provided to you a very reasonable solution BUT then you ended up putting another roadblock.



Examples:
1)
Travestyny: Scope cannot be on all non-threshold susbtances.

ADP02: Well, even though you used those comments for ALL non-threshold susbtances I will agree to omit that. OK DEAL, lets get it on!



2)
Travestyny: Scope cannot be on blood testing just urine testing methodologies.

ADP02: OK DEAL, lets get it on!


3)
Travestyny: Lets make the discussion on a different thing ….. the case only.

ADP02: I started the thread and challenged you on something completely different. Lets get it on!



4)
Travestyny: Well those statements of mine that I made a "BILLION" times and told you that I couldn't be more CLEAR, they are VAGUE! Can you make my statements more clear?

ADP02: OK DEAL, lets get it on!



5)
Travestyny: Well, now I want you to first give me points …..

ADP02: What I will do is this. You come up with a wager that will take care of the 2 debates. Come up with a reasonable number. Lets get it on!



6)
Travestyny: Well, the thing is I do not trust you. How about you do not give me the points this time …..

ADP02: What I will do is this. I can give the points to a 3rd party Lets get it on!



7)
Travestyny: Well, I really do not care about the BAP testing discussion and well, lets just let it go and enjoy life …..

ADP02: We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!! Actually, even more since you brought this up 1.5 years ago as well!!! Now that I challenged you, you want to tell me, stop? Lets get it on!



I see someone wavering and NOT confident in what he provided to the judges and doubled down on those statements 1.5 years later.


We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!!


We appeared to have agreed to the discussion. The limits on the discussion.

YOU EVEN ACCEPTED!!!!


LETS GET IT ON!!!!



.

LET'S HAVE A LITTLE RECAP OF WHAT HAPPENED IN HERE, SHALL WE?

1. We both agreed to a challenge, and then when I said, "now let's find judges," you tucked tail and declined.

2. You revealed that all of this bullshlt was really just about our previous debate that you lost 4-0, but you've declined all rematches because you are too pvssy.

3. You also revealed that this thread was about the BAP and how it relates to the previous debate, but you were exposed after I found a quotation from you stating that the BAP was OUT OF SCOPE of that debate, leaving you with NOTHING. You then tried to claim that I somehow changed the scope just by pure mention of something and you accepted it, though there is explicit evidence that you've not only stated that the scope can't be changed, but you cried over many pages accusing me of changing the scope. But but but....in your head I somehow changed it and it fit your agenda, so it was all good. But but but but....in your head if I changed it and it didn't fit your agenda, that's disallowed.

4. You refuse to admit that the Court of Arbitration for Sport said the WADA standard criteria is not a threshold. You won't address it at all because you know that it further solidifies your loss. Not that it needed to since you already lost 4-0.

5. YOU STILL REFUSE TO ACCEPT YOUR LOSS IN THE FIRST DEBATE AND STILL REFUSE TO PAY THE DEBT THAT YOU OWE FROM SAID DEBATE.

IT'S OVER SON. YOU GOT EXPOSED IN ALL SORTS OF LIES, WELCHING ON YOUR DEBT, BACKING OUT OF CHALLENGES. YOU'VE UTTERLY EMBARRASSED YOURSELF!

[CENTER]AND GIVE ME THE POINTS THAT YOU OWE FROM YOUR 4-0 LOSS YOU SLIMY BlTCH.
IT'S OVER.

What Travestyny, THE DEFLECTOR is trying to say is this:

I, TRAVESTYNY, have placed 9+ roadblocks to DUCK this CHALLENGE!!!

Yes, that is right. 9+ roadblocks on something that I, Travestyny, ACCEPTED!!!!




8)
Travestyny: Man, I have to think of another roadblock, SH$T!!!! What am I going to do??? THINK!!!! I found it!
You said that what I said was really not in scope, so there! (ie. I hope ADP02 buys this BS because I am running out of ideas, man!!!)


ADP02: Repeat and rinse #7 response.
We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!! Actually, even more since you brought this up 1.5 years ago as well!!! Now that I challenged you, you want to tell me, this GARBAGE DUCKING DEFLECTION??? Lets get it on!





9)
Travestyny: Travestyny gives a recap to show us all that he will say anything to DUCK!!!!

ADP02: In response to your DUCK.
- You LIED 1.5 years ago to the judges and me!
- YOU keep on posting that "BAP test and other EPO test criteria" cannot be a threshold type test because the panel said so.
--> BUT the problem with your LIE to the judges and me is that "BAP test does in fact have threshold type test".
- So that means that you have been LYING to us ALL about what the CAS panel said.
- That is, if BAP test can have threshold type tests then that CAS panel was never stating what you told the judges and me about "other criteria".
That is, that the CAS panel was NOT stated your LIE about the "other criteria"? and what is the "other criteria"? In part, the "other criteria" is the WADA criteria!!!

So the reason for this challenge was to prove that you were LYING or WRONG.

So far, it is a LIE but we both know it is WRONG as well!!!






DEFLECTOR of the TRUTH!!!

- WHY DID YOU LIE 1.5 years ago?
- WHY DID YOU LIE for 2 months now?
- WHY ARE PLACING ALL THESE ROADBLOCKS?
- WHY ARE YOU DUCKING THE CHALLENGE THAT WE BOTH ACCEPTED????

DEFLECTOR and soon to be named DUCKER
--> YOU WANT TO DUCK and therefire you are looking for any BS GARBAGE EXCUSE!


You didn't have to provide all these roadblocks to DUCK from the CHALLENGE. YOU could have said you were WRONG from the start .... but that is hard now because that means that you LIED to the judges and me!!!!

Initially, the only way to prove that you didn't LIE to the judges and me is if you took the CHALLENGE. Even after you accepted, I didn't think you would go thru with this and so far I am right. At this point in time, those roadblocks can only mean 1 thing. YOU LIED. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.


Only way to change all of this is if you accept (AGAIN) this challenge and win. BUT the LIAR, DEFLECTOR and DUCKER has lost all confidence in what he told the judges and me.....






LATEST GARBAGE ROADBLOCK - not in scope
- I responded above to your DUCK, DUCKER!!!!
- You reminded me that even WADA included the BAP test. Remember when you provided me evidence that you were going to show me a 2010 test vs 2002 test? So as you can see, this BAP test was used by WADA!!!! Ooops!
- For 2 months now we were arguing your interpretation of the CAS panel's statements related to ......... BAP TESTING!!!! It was in scope for 2 months!!! Ooops!
- Open your eyes, scope no scope is you trying to find a roadblock to DUCK, DUCKER!!!! and even here, you are WRONG!!! How many times can you be WRONG??? LOL


- You accepted this challenge. Why are you DUCKING NOW?
- While negotiating you misinterpreted my OK and soon after you called me a duck. You went berserk in that post. Can you imagine me giving you 9+ roadblocks???? Ooops
- In your own words, you exceeded what one would call, a DUCK!!!!


You brought this to a new level!!! Let me know when you find your BALLs. They have left the building!!!! LOL




Unbelievably embarrassing!!!

I think it is DUCK SEASON!!!! Hilarious!!!!

[travestyny]

You still going???? I really don’t know how you could live with yourself after being proven to be such an utter bumbling bltch. So sorry that I won't be joining you for another 90 page thread. I've said everything I have to say in post 164.

You've already been given your marching orders, son.

1. Admit you lost the previous debate.

2. Pay the withstanding debt from the previous debate.

3. Apologize to me and the judges for stating that we conspired to cheat you in the previous debate.

Until then:

But on the bright side, maybe if you can do all of that, you'll gain some closure and you won't have to cry over your 4-0 loss anymore. I'll pray for your soul.

[ADP02]

You still going???? I really don’t know how you could live with yourself after being proven to be such an utter bumbling bltch. So sorry that I won't be joining you for another 90 page thread. I've said everything I have to say in post 164.

You've already been given your marching orders, son.

1. Admit you lost the previous debate.

2. Pay the withstanding debt from the previous debate.

3. Apologize to me and the judges for stating that we conspired to cheat you in the previous debate.

Until then:



But on the bright side, maybe if you can do all of that, you'll gain some closure and you won't have to cry over your 4-0 loss anymore. I'll pray for your soul.

Come one, come all, come check it out …… the QUACK is here!!!


IT IS OFFICIALLY DUCK SEASON!!!!










David Letterman's TOP 10 LIST of Travestyny's DUCKING EXCUSES!!!!




1)
Travestyny: Scope cannot be on all non-threshold susbtances.

ADP02: Well, even though you used those comments for ALL non-threshold susbtances I will agree to omit that. OK DEAL, lets get it on!



2)
Travestyny: Scope cannot be on blood testing just urine testing methodologies.

ADP02: OK DEAL, lets get it on!


3)
Travestyny: Lets make the discussion on a different thing ….. the case only.

ADP02: I started the thread and challenged you on something completely different. Lets get it on!



4)
Travestyny: Well those statements of mine that I made a "BILLION" times and told you that I couldn't be more CLEAR, they are VAGUE! Can you make my statements more clear?

ADP02: OK DEAL, lets get it on!



5)
Travestyny: Well, now I want you to first give me points …..

ADP02: What I will do is this. You come up with a wager that will take care of the 2 debates. Come up with a reasonable number. Lets get it on!



6)
Travestyny: Well, the thing is I do not trust you. How about you do not give me the points this time …..

ADP02: What I will do is this. I can give the points to a 3rd party Lets get it on!



7)
Travestyny: Well, I really do not care about the BAP testing discussion and well, lets just let it go and enjoy life …..

ADP02: We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!! Actually, even more since you brought this up 1.5 years ago as well!!! Now that I challenged you, you want to tell me, stop? Lets get it on!





8)
Travestyny: You said that what I said was really not in scope in one of your post, so there!

ADP02: This is the dumbest one of all of your DUCKs. We have been arguing about this for 2 months now!!!!! Actually, even more since you brought this up 1.5 years ago as well!!! Lets get it on!





9)
Travestyny: Travestyny recaps his DUCKs to show us all that he will say anything to DUCK!!!!

ADP02: In response to your DUCK.
- You LIED 1.5 years ago to the judges and me!
- YOU ARE A LIAR NOW
- YOU EVEN WERE ACCEPTING THIS CHALLENGE DUMBO - but YOUR constant roadblocks after "I WORKED WITH YOU for each roadblock, well, WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!
- This is NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!!!




10) Travestyny: Work with me! You have not done enough!!!

ADP02: YOU have qualified to be called a JOKE!!!! This is too funny.


This should be a STICKY!!!





Upgraded DUCK STATUS!!!!

You brought this to a new level!!!


Let me know when you find your BALLs. They have left the building!!!! LOL




Unbelievably embarrassing!!!

IT IS OFFICIALLY DUCK SEASON!!!!


Hilarious!!!!




.

[Dosumpthin]

Don't believe anything ADP02 says. He's a liar.


The end.







That's all you need to know.


Oh yeah and he's the type that won't honor a bet. Yeah. You know those guys.

[ADP02]

Don't believe anything ADP02 says. He's a liar.


The end.







That's all you need to know.


Oh yeah and he's the type that won't honor a bet. Yeah. You know those guys.

Travestyny is a LIAR and CHEAT!!!

You may want to give one of those types of people a reward for that (cheating and LYING) but I cannot!

BUT what I did is took care of that silly roadblock. Check out the TOP 10 LIST. So that silly excuse is taken care of!!!!

See what I did?

My solution is more than fair.


If he wins, he can have as many points as he wants to wager.

If I win, I do not want any of his points!!!



So go ask Travestyny, why is he DUCKING? He has nothing to lose!!!!


.

[travestyny]

Travestyny is a LIAR and CHEAT!!!

You may want to give one of those type of people a reward but I cannot!

BUT what I did is took care of that silly roadblock. Check out the TOP 10 LIST. So that silly excuse is taken care of!!!!

See what I did?

My solution is more than fair.


If he wins, he can have as many points as he wants to wager.

If I win, I do not want any of his points!!!



So go ask Travestyny, why is he DUCKING? He has nothing to lose!!!!


.

DUDE YOU AREN'T FOOLING ANYONE. WE ALL KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE.

WE ALL KNOW YOU TRIED TO CHEAT!!!!! SAYING THAT NOW YOU ARE WILLING TO GIVE POINTS TO A 3RD PERSON WHEN YOU KNOW YOU LOST???? LMAOOO


PAY YOUR FVVCKING DEBT, BlTCH. NO ONE IS GOING TO READ YOUR ESSAYS. You are DESPERATE but you WON'T EVEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, WON'T ADMIT YOU TRIED TO CHEAT, AND WON'T ADMIT THAT YOU LOST!!!!


AND YOU WON'T PAY THE DEBT THAT YOU OWE FROM THE LAST DEBATE THAT YOU LOST 4-0 AND CLAIMED EVERYONE CONSPIRED TO CHEAT YOU, BUT YOU TURNED DOWN A REMATCH NUMEROUS TIMES BECAUSE YOU REALIZE YOU'RE FULL OF SHlT. JUST STOP IT. PAY YOUR DEBT, BlTCH, AND ADMIT YOU LOST!