Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[Reloaded]

as i have stated, i would have like to go back to the tread topic...

thus, this will be my last post on the toradol issue just for you...

and let me quote you:

"Ive never said it wasnt the thing is everything was legal at one time then it was abused and became illegal , the IOC is being pressured to add it to banned substance list one day it will be , does that mean its a PED or not a PED ."

the above is contradicting itself...can one be held accountable or be charged NOW with a law that will only be a law in the future?

can you be charged with jay walking now where there's no jay walking ordinance in place?

can you break a non-existent law?

You want the non-existant law .

Morals , to use Toradol to gain advantage right before a professional fight says Manny dont have any, I guess God intervened and said not this time my son , and what does it say for all his fights since 2009 .

You seem to think its an honourable thing to use Toradol for the sole purpose of cheating there is no other reason it was asked for , if I went off into the jungles and found a drug that turns men into men of steel and said its not illegal you would think its fair play is that right ?

[tangalog2200]

You want the non-existant law .

Morals , to use Toradol to gain advantage right before a professional fight says Manny dont have any, I guess God intervened and said not this time my son , and what does it say for all his fights since 2009 .

You seem to think its an honourable thing to use Toradol for the sole purpose of cheating there is no other reason it was asked for , if I went off into the jungles and found a drug that turns men into men of steel and said its not illegal you would think its fair play is that right ?

now, now, now, cheating?

suit yourself, buddy....

something that is legal is......

cheating? oh my!

again, suit yourself and be happy, buddy!

[Reloaded]

"750ml iv fluids in a man because it is not a large does for a dehydrated man not even near a large does"

the thread on iv has everything you should know....the most salient point being.....

it could help hide ped use...

that is why it is in the prohibited lists....

now, lets go back to the thread....let's respect the topic and the op, shall we?

i already am missing the ring generalship, defense, effective aggression hit and not get hit, score cards blah blah

Thats right it COULD but that is no proof of any wrong doing the authorities have all their blood and urine samples to retest , Saline is also used for dehydration it does nothing for pain tolerance .

IV Fluid is legal at the time of use , just like your Toradol but which one will give 100% enhanced performance , here is a hint for you its not Saline .

[Reloaded]

now, now, now, cheating?

suit yourself, buddy....

something that is legal is......

cheating? oh my!

again, suit yourself and be happy, buddy!

When larger doses make you feel like superman in armor , I think it is cheating and when one day it is banned people can say eh that was the PED Manny used .

[tangalog2200]

I pass the ball to you Tangalog. Reloaded cant seem to understand the veracity of Pac's injury was tolerable to continue on for the May 2 fight.

Care to explain to Reloaded? Even if we know Pac didnt even take a toradol shot, since he wasnt allowed by nsac, it seems it's cheating to him lol

your highness, i am sorry to report that i failed to educate reloaded; as even walking him through the issues raised were not enough to open his eyes nor improve his comprehension....

pardon your humble servant, i beg of you....

maybe i can do better next time!

ha ha ha ha

[Reloaded]

your highness, i am sorry to report that i failed to educate reloaded; as even walking him through the issues raised were not enough to open his eyes nor improve his comprehension....

pardon your humble servant, i beg of you....

maybe i can do better next time!

ha ha ha ha

Another notch on my handle

[Spoon23]

your highness, i am sorry to report that i failed to educate reloaded; as even walking him through the issues raised were not enough to open his eyes nor improve his comprehension....

pardon your humble servant, i beg of you....

maybe i can do better next time!

ha ha ha ha

As you can see..

You can't win a debate against an airhead hehehe

He doesn't know when his been KO'd lol

And that also holds true to 99% fl0mo tards around here

[tangalog2200]

Another notch on my handle

nope, this is too hot and complicated for you to handle!

[Spoon23]

nope, this is too hot and complicated for you to handle!

I gave him a book to read for his reading comprehension. I'm afraid he shelved it hehehe



Because of this, I now have more respect for teachers who had the patience to educate. We tried, but we can only do so much hehehe

[Spoon23]

To get us back on track to the thread topic at hand,

I bring out a well written piece by sterilizer


Originally Posted by sterilizer
Slow motion doesn't lie.

Pacquiao was so fast in both attack and defense, that probably half or more of his connected punches (WHICH DID SOUND LIKE A PUNCH BTW) were never credited by either Compubox or the American judges, being on American soil, and in Las Vegas no less.

Likewise, half or more of Floyd's punches were credited as landed, but they never ever made any sound like Manny's, and in slow motion it is clearly evident that Manny dodged most of them with excellent head or body movement, and/or caught them with his gloves.

Pacquiao proved to be faster and more accurate than Mayweather both in offense and defense, but his problem is that he is not such a good "poser" when he lands his punches, most of the time they are so awkward that the only way to appreciate and acknowledge them is with the use of slow motion and a very good angle. Conversely, most of Floyd's pot-shot punches LOOK way more aesthetic, almost like theatrically rehearsed for maximum effect, and even if they don't actually land, IDK how he does it but in real time it LOOKS like they do land, but there's no sound to them and in slo-mo you can see that he missed, sometimes even by a few inches...

I am pretty sure that a similar story went down in both of his Maidana fights. Even in regular motion, I clearly saw Maidana dodge or catch most of those supposedly "landed" punches, and frankly Mayweather looked clumsy and old at times. In the De la Hoya fight, similar story, and even in his fight vs. Marquez as well, Marquez did actually land a lot of great combinations of three or more punches on Floyd, which were never credited to him. It doesn't matter that he was punching like a weakling because he was at least two weight divisions smaller than Floyd and in his poorest shape ever, his combinations did still land and he got no credit for them. BTW Floyd did not land a single combination of punches vs. Marquez throughout the whole fight. Just one pot-shot after the other, --many of them caught or dodged as usual-- but his theatrics were great as always, to impress the very-biased American judges.

I insist, a 2nd meeting should have no advantages for Floyd, it should not be on American soil, no American judges, no American referee, no sold-out "punch stats" by Compubox. Instead, this time let the fight take place in Asia, China for example. Use several independent, non-biased stats providers that really do take the necessary time to analyze the punch stats in slow motion and in several angles AFTER the fight ends, and also use the referee, judges, gloves, commentators, drug-testing agencies, betting houses, etc. etc. that Manny chooses, not Floyd, and then, let's see what happens... Oh and I forgot, let's see a Maanny fighting with BOTH hands as well...

But that of course is just a fantasy, the American fighter with all the financial power and clout does always dictate the terms, so if a 2nd fight would be to take place in Las Vegas again, IMO only ****** people would pay to see such a fiasco again, because I don't think Manny has the capability to knock Floyd out, with all the clinching and running involved, if he hasn't been able to knock out smaller and less super-defensive opponents for the last few years