Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[jaded]

240 fucking pages?

[tangalog2200]

Revert? You act as though we were having an actual conversation at one point. Dumb pact@rd. You guys are seriously ***t up people

oh, you're hurt!

are we not just trolling?

[Spoon23]

Come debate me you chicken sht , lets debate how to score a fight .

Lol you can't even understand a simple question. How can you debate?

Anyway, I'll give you a lifeline. One more chance card to answer intelligently.

Assuming Floyd was taking Peds by masking it with 750 of IVS and was found out that the judges were biased in giving him the win. Do you still think he won it?

[Real King Kong]

oh, you're hurt!

are we not just trolling?

Yea ok...now I'm hurt lol. Whatever story you tell yourself to make this somehow feel worthwhile

[Spoon23]

a very poor attempt at setting the parameters for discussing this thread....

ask me why...i'm waiting....

I don't think fl0mos know what parameters mean bud lol

But I think they will learn it soon..

Stay tuned..

[Spoon23]

that is where you stumble......

judges? scoring parameters used by judges?

do you understand what you are trying to do here?

three judges may even have different and/or contradicting verdict on a given fight!

or do you just can not dispute what you now see in the video....

the video is just a slow mo version of what transpired and you should not have difficulties commenting on it or dis*****g it....

just a simple video.....versus 3 judges who you can not even tell what they have for lunch or dinner before the fight....

and discuss what's on their mind regarding generalship, control defense etc etc...

Lol I think reloaded thinks judges think a like hahaha

[Spoon23]

i thought judges only look for the punch that landed?

are the judges also looking for the punched that missed?

now to be fair let me answer two of your criteria.

effective aggression

and fight control

Fighter A laying on the rope in a turtle shell defense.

Fighter B punching away wit 7-8 combos most hitting arms and gloves but one or two slips the arm and hits Fighter A's side no significant damage was done. most shots were blocked.

I will give fighter B

Effective aggression - 2 out of the possible 10 score
Fight Control - 10 out of 10 fo pinning his opponent on the rope his opponent was not able to move to the left, right, forward, or backward making him helpless to mount an offense/counter attack.

I will give Fighter A

Effective aggression - 0 out of 10 there was not even an aggression how much more about efectivity

Fight control 0 out of 10.

can't move to the left, can't move to the right, can't move forward and can't move backwards. Did not thorw a single counter punch or any offense for the matter. just laying there on the rope covering up.

Fighter B wins this round

According to reloaded judges has time to count all the punches that missed hahaha

[tangalog2200]

Yea ok...now I'm hurt lol. Whatever story you tell yourself to make this somehow feel worthwhile

oh! it is worthwhile...

having a very intelligent discussion with you is worth it...

[ADP02]

Your saying Mannys plan was to box , after him and his trainer telling the world he is going to KO him , that he is punching harder than ever before his blazing footwork with get him inside to damage Floyd .

And they had this plan because it suits your agenda to do the ol flip flop , now the terminator is out boxing Floyd , FCK OFF WITH YOUR BS , Manny could not do anything without paying for it and was shut down just like ever other fighter that trys to out box Floyd , they are all totally shut down to their lowest career output , same thing happened to Manny .

Floyd wins a lot of his close fights because of his Ring Generalship , Defence , Effective Aggression , Fight Control , its all a part of scoring but you would sooner call it paid of judges , in reality a simpletons way out from admitting they are wrong that there is a lot more to scoring a boxing match that only punch stats .

I read plenty of articles prior to the fight and came out saying that this fight will certainly start out to be a technical fight. That is, not to expect Manny to come out like you thought, the terminator. I also stated as long as Manny is in the fight using that game plan, they will stick with it.

Here are some statements:
"Floyd likes to flow around the outside of the ring. He prefers the ropes to the middle so he can wait, set traps, suck you in and pick you off with his counters. Especially that very good straight right hand ....... Manny will close him with 2 or 3 punches but then move. Floyd will throw back alright but Manny won't be there" ...... "Manny has to make the right moves at the right time to win" said Roach.


Oh, BTW, was your above post your way to avoid showing us all those examples of Floyd winning the fight?

[Reloaded]

"Boxing is a scientific sport that has a scoring system that judges score fights by , I suggest you understand why 99% of viewers know Floyd won"

scoring system? or scoring systems? scientific sport? is the scoring also scientific? is the scoring methodical and well documented? what criteria or parameters are shown on the score cards? i am still waiting....and...

are you saying that ring generalship , defense , effective aggression , fight control
are lost when the fight was viewed in slow mo video...

if not, why not use the same video to highlight your points/opinion?

Your defense is very weak because you dont understand the impact of Ring Generalship Defense Effective Aggression and Fight Control has on scorecards its a major player in scoring boxing , always has been and always will be , and the reason is it reveals to a viewer a boxers skills brains and tactics during a fight its a scale of excellence at being a boxer , the fanboy and casual fans dont see it for what it is , but the judges sure as hell do because they understand it .

This is the Elephant in the room of how boxing contests are scored , this area of scoring is why so many contests if at all near close create so much backlash from the losing side , great boxers win most of theirs fights because of their control over the opponent , control the range , control the pace and make the opponent not be able to fight his fight , you force him to change from his best fight to your best fight , this part of scoring is a major part of scoring fights whether you like it not thats the real world and the very reason of why Willie Pep won a round without throwing a single punch .

The truth is is smacking you in the face and you dont have a leg to stand on in an argument , I gave you more credit for being real , I think your in denial .