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  • #81
    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
    Beating a semi-retired Lennox Lewis wouldn't change a thing. It would be like Holmes over Ali. But it just goes to show how great he is when a fat and out of shape Lennox still managed to smash his a vintage Vitali's face to bits and stop him.



    Trash talking? I am asking a simple question. Or are you just too uncomfortable answering that you resort to taking swipes at my education level, which quite frankly, you don't know anything about?

    The mere fact that you say Vitali 'would have' beaten this and that guy, and 'if' this and that had not happened he 'would have been' considered great etc just shows that you don't know how to classify a great fighter and quite frankly, don't know much about boxing. I'm not taking a swipe at you personally, just stating some facts. If you disagree, state your case and convince us that what he's done in his career is greater than what the best did.

    And btw, here's a list of people I personally rank higher than Vitali:

    Lewis, Louis, Johnson, Ali, Holmes, Liston, Dempsey, Charles, JJ Walcott, Marciano, Wills, Patterson, Tunney, Frazier, Holyfield, Foreman, Tyson, Langford, Jeffries, W. Klitschko, Hell, you could even add Jeanette, Norton, Scmeling, Braddock to that list.

    I think that's about 20 guys I'd rank higher than Vitali at this particular time. If you disagree please say so and why.

    And please, do not say "Vitali would have beaten" because 'would have' are not words in the boxing dictionary.
    terrible comparison with lewis and ali. ali was shot to bits when holmes beat him. lewis was coming off an impressive win over tyson and 37 isnt that old these days. hell,,,its 5 yrs younger than vitali is now. lewis may have been slightly past it but he was far from a shot fighter and vitali did give him hell altho lewis did win fair and square

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    • #82
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      Tell me how much heart Vittles showed against Byrd? He hurt his shoulder in the 8th and quit in the 9th of a fight he was up on the cards and against a soft hitting opponent. This isn't provocation, this is a fact.

      Yeah, Lewis looked like he was getting lucky in the 5th and 6th rounds landing repeatedly with the harder more effective punches.

      And by the way...it's write, not wright.
      Most experts believe Lennox got lucky. This isn't provocation, this is a FACT.

      Even Emanuel Steward was pissed that Lennox didn't take the rematch.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        Now I wonder who's alt Dr.Ironfisted is? :rolleyes9: A usual suspect no doubt :nuts9:

        Poet
        Suck David Bowies old cock, you ***got.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by beez721 View Post
          terrible comparison with lewis and ali. ali was shot to bits when holmes beat him. lewis was coming off an impressive win over tyson and 37 isnt that old these days. hell,,,its 5 yrs younger than vitali is now. lewis may have been slightly past it but he was far from a shot fighter and vitali did give him hell altho lewis did win fair and square
          Yeah I know it was abit much, but he was not just slightly past it, he was past it. He looked fat and out of shape for the 1st Rahman fight, and was the same again for Vitali.

          Your post is a little contradictory since you claim age is a big factor. Lennox vs Vitali was about the same age as Ali vs Holmes.

          Ali had only dropped at split decision to Spinks in the last 7 years before coming into the Holmes fight. Lennox had only lost once to Rahman in the last 8 years before coming into the Vitali fight. Regardless, Ali was more past it than Lennox was, but that hadn't stopped him from fighting Shavers and spinks in the years before, same way Lennox had fought Tyson and Holyfield way too late in his career.

          And i'm not denying Vitali was probably on top for the fight, but it was nowhere near as much as the klitschko fans will let you know. it was like 3-2 coming into the 6th.

          I respect Lennox for not taking the rematch. No reason to lose to a fighter you would so easily beat in your prime and risk your legacy.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
            Suck David Bowies old cock, you ***got.
            I assume by your rather erratic response that it is true.

            disappointing.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
              Yeah I know it was abit much, but he was not just slightly past it, he was past it. He looked fat and out of shape for the 1st Rahman fight, and was the same again for Vitali.

              Your post is a little contradictory since you claim age is a big factor. Lennox vs Vitali was about the same age as Ali vs Holmes.

              Ali had only dropped at split decision to Spinks in the last 7 years before coming into the Holmes fight. Lennox had only lost once to Rahman in the last 8 years before coming into the Vitali fight. Regardless, Ali was more past it than Lennox was, but that hadn't stopped him from fighting Shavers and spinks in the years before, same way Lennox had fought Tyson and Holyfield way too late in his career.

              And i'm not denying Vitali was probably on top for the fight, but it was nowhere near as much as the klitschko fans will let you know. it was like 3-2 coming into the 6th.

              I respect Lennox for not taking the rematch. No reason to lose to a fighter you would so easily beat in your prime and risk your legacy.
              I know lewis wasnt in his best shape physically but I really think even in great shape vitali would have given him hell becuz of his size and awckwardness. dont get me wrong tho,,I think lewis is better all around and would win but I think it would be a close fight. I think even lennox believes this deep down which is a big reason he decided against a rematch and didnt wanna risk possibly hurting his legacy and I cant say I blame him there

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              • #87
                Originally posted by beez721 View Post
                I know lewis wasnt in his best shape physically but I really think even in great shape vitali would have given him hell becuz of his size and awckwardness. dont get me wrong tho,,I think lewis is better all around and would win but I think it would be a close fight. I think even lennox believes this deep down which is a big reason he decided against a rematch and didnt wanna risk possibly hurting his legacy and I cant say I blame him there
                exactly, Lewis wanted none of a rematch.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                  Yeah I know it was abit much, but he was not just slightly past it, he was past it. He looked fat and out of shape for the 1st Rahman fight, and was the same again for Vitali.

                  Your post is a little contradictory since you claim age is a big factor. Lennox vs Vitali was about the same age as Ali vs Holmes.

                  Ali had only dropped at split decision to Spinks in the last 7 years before coming into the Holmes fight. Lennox had only lost once to Rahman in the last 8 years before coming into the Vitali fight. Regardless, Ali was more past it than Lennox was, but that hadn't stopped him from fighting Shavers and spinks in the years before, same way Lennox had fought Tyson and Holyfield way too late in his career.

                  And i'm not denying Vitali was probably on top for the fight, but it was nowhere near as much as the klitschko fans will let you know. it was like 3-2 coming into the 6th.

                  I respect Lennox for not taking the rematch. No reason to lose to a fighter you would so easily beat in your prime and risk your legacy.
                  Stop finding excuses, whe you enter into the ring and accept to fight you are supposed to be in shape especially when you arr the champion. Lewis did train and Vitali tool this fight 2 weeks before. Vitali is no jole, he os always in shape even at 42, he is mentally a tough guy and he comes to fight. If Lewis was semi-retired, an excuse that I don't believe, it would be a huge lack of respect to the sport and himself as a champion.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by slimshandy69 View Post
                    it was a freak accident, like the shoulder injury he had with chris bird, both fights he was up and winning comfortably

                    Vitali would trounce any heavyweight of any era bar His borther(the current form).
                    yeah it's called a punch in the face ... it tends to happen in boxing

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                      I assume by your rather erratic response that it is true.

                      disappointing.
                      don't even bother replying to that Weltfart twat he ain't worth it he'll just just throw his toys around in a tantrum give you some red from himself and a few alts and get himself banned for racism shortly after.

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