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  • #11
    Originally posted by yoz View Post
    If you've read any other Hughie Fury threads, you'll see i'm a fan of the kid. He's sharp, chooses his shots well, and has a good boxing brain.

    The fight on Saturday was pointless, though. That's a fact.
    How is it a fact, Yoz?

    An 18 year old novice fights an 8 year pro who recently went the distance with ex Prizefighter & Commonwealth Champion Martin Rogan, went 3 rounds with ex British, Commonwealth & European Champion Matt Skelton and has over 100 rounds of professional boxing experience.

    Would you rather Fury not fight or only fight top ten opponents?

    What's wrong with an 18 year old kid staying busy against a trial horse?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by taansend View Post
      How is it a fact, Yoz?

      An 18 year old novice fights an 8 year pro who recently went the distance with ex Prizefighter & Commonwealth Champion Martin Rogan, went 3 rounds with ex British, Commonwealth & European Champion Matt Skelton and has over 100 rounds of professional boxing experience.

      Would you rather Fury not fight or only fight top ten opponents?

      What's wrong with an 18 year old kid staying busy against a trial horse?
      The guy threw nothing. NOTHING.

      I guess Hughie had a chance to work on his shot selection, footwork etc; but, lets be real, his sparring sessions are probably more of a test.

      I'm not saying I want to see him thrown in against the likes of Skelton etc; Hughie is still a baby in the HW division. But he could do with getting some rounds under his belt.

      I don't want to see another prospect being fed cans (a la Wilder/Price). IMO, he should be getting as much practice/time in as possible. Who cares if he gets a KO? I'd rather see Hughie box smart and stick to a game plan.

      I rate the kid. His style, composure and footwork are excellent.
      Last edited by yoz; 06-14-2013, 03:13 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by yoz View Post
        The guy threw nothing. NOTHING.

        I guess Hughie had a chance to work on his shot selection, footwork etc; but, lets be real, his sparring sessions are probably more of a test.

        I'm not saying I want to see him thrown in against the likes of Skelton etc; Hughie is still a baby in the HW division. But he could do with getting some rounds under his belt.
        But the opponent had been (reasonably) competitive against heavyweights at a more advanced stage of their career than Fury.

        You're saying that it was a pointless fight because Fury got him out of there quickly?

        When a matchmaker makes a fight - especially at short notice - he's going to look at the opponents record & say "In the last 4 years he's been in with 7 undefeated opponents plus two ex Champions."

        And Fury did the job required.

        So how is it pointless. He shouldn't fight at all?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by taansend View Post
          But the opponent had been (reasonably) competitive against heavyweights at a more advanced stage of their career than Fury.

          You're saying that it was a pointless fight because Fury got him out of there quickly?

          When a matchmaker makes a fight - especially at short notice - he's going to look at the opponents record & say "In the last 4 years he's been in with 7 undefeated opponents plus two ex Champions."

          And Fury did the job required.

          So how is it pointless. He shouldn't fight at all?
          This x2

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          • #15
            He should fight other young heavies (if they agree to fight each other) then you'll evaluate at the end of 3 years and see if the kids has the talents and desire to move up! The trend of "padding" the record has been around for ever but in these days when a fighter in the top 5 of his class only fights once a year whats the point in a padded record!!!
            Fight competitive opponents that are equal in the maturation process and stop wasting time with opponents you KNOW can't win!!! Its NOT competion!
            Ray.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
              He should fight other young heavies (if they agree to fight each other) then you'll evaluate at the end of 3 years and see if the kids has the talents and desire to move up! The trend of "padding" the record has been around for ever but in these days when a fighter in the top 5 of his class only fights once a year whats the point in a padded record!!!
              Fight competitive opponents that are equal in the maturation process and stop wasting time with opponents you KNOW can't win!!! Its NOT competion!
              Ray.
              Ray, I do agree with you in regards to having competitive fights & learning how to be a proper fighter but in Fury's case he's 18 & been a pro for less than three months. His prime is probably a good decade away. And if you compare him to other heavyweights of recent years......

              Vitali turned turned pro at 25 & in HIS 4th bout fought a man who had been stopped 10 times (in 12 losses) most of those before the 3rd round.

              Wlad was 20 but his 6th opponent was a man who had been knocked out 21 previous times - and NEVER beat a fighter with a winning record.

              Mike Tysons 6th opponent had a 3-16-3 record & got knocked out in ONE round by a 42 year old Earnie Shavers (OK, it is Earnie Shavers, but still....)

              I just can't believe there were people criticising Fury for keeping busy. His level of competition will improve. In the meantime let this kid fight often as he matures physically & mentally.

              p.s. Ray, I'm moving to Fort Myers area soon. When I do I am popping up to buy you a beer.

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              • #17
                Have to agree that the last bloke Hughie fought only qualified as a heavyweight because he was sufficiently fat/obese enough to make the scales groan.....bugger all conditioning or technical ability.

                Shockingly bad opponent.....reckon he would need to take a breather carrying the shopping across the supermarket car park.

                Reminds me a bit of those sad, busted-up guys Frankie Bruno and Gary Mason got served-up by Terry Lawless when they were starting out. Short, fat and utterly hopeless.

                But there's some logic behind these walkovers; get Hughie fighting regularly and in all sorts of places, learn the rules of the ring and become a drilled and efficient professional fighter.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by taansend View Post
                  How is it a fact, Yoz?

                  An 18 year old novice fights an 8 year pro who recently went the distance with ex Prizefighter & Commonwealth Champion Martin Rogan, went 3 rounds with ex British, Commonwealth & European Champion Matt Skelton and has over 100 rounds of professional boxing experience.

                  Would you rather Fury not fight or only fight top ten opponents?

                  What's wrong with an 18 year old kid staying busy against a trial horse?
                  this - give the kid a break sheesh ... most guys his age are still wearing head gear for christsake

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by yoz View Post
                    If you've read any other Hughie Fury threads, you'll see i'm a fan of the kid. He's sharp, chooses his shots well, and has a good boxing brain.


                    The fight on Saturday was pointless, though. That's a fact.
                    For Hughie, all he needs is more fights.

                    As an 18 year old, he's fit enough to fight every three weeks or so to test some of the things they are working on in training. Doing this whilst gradually increasing levels, say every 4-5 fights is the way to do it. You often see guys like my man David Price - 14 or so pro fights, gets in there with a former world challenger, get's KOd. granted, Price is older, but in boxing terms he's just a baby.

                    I don't see any reason to criticize any of Fury's opponents at the moment. Kid is 18, when he's turning 20-21 he should up the level significantly. But he has a lot of time to develop.

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                    • #20
                      He's a *****,stealing is what they do

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