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  • #11
    Originally posted by G_Child_123 View Post
    The only guy he would probably have to beat to justify his credentials for a world title shot is Mike Jones. They both seem to be at the same point in their careers.

    However, I don't think Brook could have done much more in his career. Guys like N'Dou and Jackiewicz are 'gatekeepers' to world title shots and he beat them both in impressive fashion.

    What has Berto got Brook ain't? Berto has the natural punching ability, but I believe Brook is technically better. Obviously they need to make the fight for this to hold merit.
    N'Dou and Jackiewicz ain't even comparable to Juan Urango, let alone;

    Collazo
    Quintana
    Zaveck


    Brook's best wins are over guys who are brought in to make prospects look good. Add the fact Brook is British and I'm almost positive he isn't going to be very good.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Demise View Post
      N'Dou and Jackiewicz ain't even comparable to Juan Urango, let alone;

      Collazo
      Quintana
      Zaveck


      Brook's best wins are over guys who are brought in to make prospects look good. Add the fact Brook is British and I'm almost positive he isn't going to be very good.
      Agree with you, although these guys are extremely durable. Jackiewicz had never been KO'd before his fight against Brook.

      I'd like to see these guys face off in an eliminator series, but with Pacquaio and Mayweather holding 2 of the world belts, Berto is going to need challengers sooner rather than later.

      Fight needs to made to realise Brook's potential for me.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Demise View Post
        N'Dou and Jackiewicz ain't even comparable to Juan Urango, let alone;

        Collazo
        Quintana
        Zaveck


        Brook's best wins are over guys who are brought in to make prospects look good. Add the fact Brook is British and I'm almost positive he isn't going to be very good.
        Jackiewicz isn't comparable to Jan Zaveck? Their two fights don't suggest this is the case! Zaveck was much better in their second fight, but it was competitive. Jackiewicz simply could not compete with Brook, on the other hand, and Brook never got out of second gear.

        Despite his relative inexperience, I would put Kell Brook in with any of those four you mentioned.

        If Brook gets matched up against any of those four after his upcoming fight, I'll bet all of my points on him to win.
        Last edited by whoelibits; 11-22-2011, 12:25 AM. Reason: typo

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        • #14
          Originally posted by whoelibits View Post
          Jackiewicz isn't comparable to the Jan Zaveck? Their two fights don't suggest this is the case! Zaveck was much better in their second fight, but it was competitive. Jackiewicz simply could not compete with Brook, on the other hand, and Brook never got out of second gear.

          Despite his relative inexperience, I would put Kell Brook in with any of those four you mentioned.

          If Brook gets matched up against any of those four after his upcoming fight, I'll bet all of my points on him to win.
          Forgot Jackiewicz is 1:1 against Zaveck!

          Urango hasn't fought since 2010, and Quintana and Collazo have only had a maximum of 4 fights each over the past 3 years, which isn't a great deal of activity.

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          • #15
            Urango who got manhandled by Devon "The gift decisioner" Alexander?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by whoelibits View Post
              Jackiewicz isn't comparable to Jan Zaveck? Their two fights don't suggest this is the case! Zaveck was much better in their second fight, but it was competitive. Jackiewicz simply could not compete with Brook, on the other hand, and Brook never got out of second gear.

              Despite his relative inexperience, I would put Kell Brook in with any of those four you mentioned.

              If Brook gets matched up against any of those four after his upcoming fight, I'll bet all of my points on him to win.
              Zaveck held a belt and has much better wins than Jackiewicz. He was a walking punchbag and didn't offer much adversity to Brook.

              Originally posted by G_Child_123 View Post
              Forgot Jackiewicz is 1:1 against Zaveck!

              Urango hasn't fought since 2010, and Quintana and Collazo have only had a maximum of 4 fights each over the past 3 years, which isn't a great deal of activity.
              First off, Hagler hasn't fought since '87 but that doesn't mean shit. Quintana, even if he fights once a year is still a much better win than anything Brook has. Yet again, Collazo is much better than anyone Brook has faced.

              Originally posted by GoogleMe View Post
              Urango who got manhandled by Devon "The gift decisioner" Alexander?
              And your point is?

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              • #17
                Hard to say how far he can go because he hasn't really faced anyone of a real high standard.

                The N'dou win was a credible one but there's nothing there that you look @ & think "wow", if you get my drift?

                Hopefully they can get him some decent opposition now because he seems to have some potential but he won't realise it whilst fighting C level fighters.

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                • #18
                  First off, Hagler hasn't fought since '87 but that doesn't mean ****. Quintana, even if he fights once a year is still a much better win than anything Brook has. Yet again, Collazo is much better than anyone Brook has faced.
                  I assure you I'm not suggesting Marvin Hagler's lack of activity means he would have very little chance in a fight with Kell Brook

                  I'm suggesting that the lack of activity from these guys can question what kind of challenge they would put up should a fight with Brook be made.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by G_Child_123 View Post
                    I assure you I'm not suggesting Marvin Hagler's lack of activity means he would have very little chance in a fight with Kell Brook

                    I'm suggesting that the lack of activity from these guys can question what kind of challenge they would put up should a fight with Brook be made.
                    My point was that it doesn't matter when Urango fought, I wasn't suggesting he fight Brook. I was pointing out that Urango, Quintana, Collazo are all much much better wins than anything Brook has.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Demise View Post
                      My point was that it doesn't matter when Urango fought, I wasn't suggesting he fight Brook. I was pointing out that Urango, Quintana, Collazo are all much much better wins than anything Brook has.
                      It's a valid point. I don't think Brook should have to fight any of these guys to get a shot at Berto though, responsibility of the fighter and his promotions team to keep themselves in the frame.

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