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  • #11
    Chirosa were setup for a title fight, and now he's becomming a gatekeeper/advanced journeyman.

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    • #12
      The only fight he has had since the Fury loss is against a 5' 10" unheard of who has 20 more losses than wins. And I believe the fight against Helenius will be tougher than the one against Fury.

      I don't think it was a good idea on the part of Chisora's team to take this fight at this point in his career. I still glad it is happening, though, as it should be an interesting fight.

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      • #13
        I hope Chisora whips himself into great shape and pushes the pace all the way. One of Helenius's weaknesses so far is that he tends to get lazy in there. Chisora should give him a solid test if he is in shape to go 12 rounds unlike against Fury.

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        • #14
          Ive seen helenius fight a few times and have concluded that he's completely overated. But with home town ref's and blind judges he can keep winning for years to come.

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          • #15
            I'm just watching the fight now since I was working over the weekend.

            Did anybody notice Chisora's double-punch 42 seconds into round 4? lolz!

            I have Dereck 3-0 up after three rounds. I can understand someone for whom ring generalship takes a lot of their stock giving Helenius round 3, but Chisora clearly won the first two rounds, and he landed the better punches in round three too so I gave him all three so far...


            Okay. I reviewed the whole thing in Notepad as I was watching it. My eyes never left the fight until the bell so there are probably loads of typos. Here goes:

            Round 1
            Chisora wins on workrate, better body punches and dominating the ring. Helenius misses mostly. 10-9 to Chisora.

            Round 2
            Closer than the first but Del Boy throws more quality punches and he looks more dangerous. Helenius lands a couple of uppercuts but only occasionally gets past Chisora's guard. Slo-mo suggests Chisora won even easier than I thought. 20-18 Chisora.

            Round 3
            Closer than the second, but Chisora wins again. Helenius' jab begins to appear and he dominates the ring for short periods, but Chisora's overhand punches, both left and right, are the round-winners. 30-27 to Chisora.

            Round 4
            Easiest yet for Chisora. Helenius did nothing and Chisora landed good punches of all types with both hands. Excellent work from Chisora. 40-36 Chisora.

            Round 5
            A bit scrappier. Helenius lands a few jabs, but he threw a million so this is inevitable. Chisora landed the more meaningful punches again, especially a couple of uppercuts in the last minute. The German commentators have gone oddly quiet. Referee is related to Helenius. 50-45 Chisora.

            Round 6
            Referee is pathetic. On the inside, it's no contest - Helenius cannot compete there. Helenius started the round well landing jabs better. Chisora takes over again until the last 40 seconds when Helenius wakes up and lands some jabs and occasional hooks. Excellent round from both guys. Helenius' best by far and I give it to him, though Chisora had good patches too. 59-55 Chisora.

            Round 7
            Commentary switched to Brit. Brit commentators say Sauerland commentators have it 5-1 to Helenius after six and that is absolutely disgusting. Helenius has started this one better. Chisora bouncing around, perhaps resting his arms. Helenius' jabs are more impressive - he's very accurate now he realises he's in a fight. Helenius lands big left hook - Chisora takes it without issue. Chisora reverts back to the original tactic, getting back inside for the last minute. Excellent finish from both guys but Helenius took the round. 68-65 Chisora.

            Round 8
            Someone please KO the ref. Quiet first minute all fought on the inside where Chisora lands the better body shots. Helenius lands to Chisora's jaw a couple of times, but they're not huge punches by any means. Good jab from Chisora with a minute to go. Chisora generally landing better and more regularly. 15 seconds to go, Helenius lands hooks with both hands but not enough to win the round. Another for Chisora. 78-74 Chisora.

            Round 9
            Referee ****wad again gives Chisora a hug. Chisora lands to Helenius' body. Crowd responds ONLY to Helenius' punches - the crowd hasn't said much. Chisora lands big right, snapping Helenius back with 90 seconds left. Chisora continues to land to the body. Excellent left-right from Chisora, and another jab to the body. Helenius covering up - no longer wants to exchange. He looks tired. Chisora does too as he's been so active, but Helenius is static. Messy last minute. Can't understand how the Duke gave this one to Helenius at all. It's 88-83 to Chisora.

            Round 10
            Chisora starts well and accurate. Referee an absolute joke. Helps Chisora to get dressed. Helenius holding onto Chisora's left arm, as he has done throughout. Messy round generally. Helenius looks exhausted and only stepping back. Chisora landing - not brilliantly, but landing, and easily enough to win the round. 98-92 to Chisora.

            Round 11
            Helenius' body language is better as he stands over Chisora. Chisora throws as ever but Helenius looks as if he's been told to go out and win rounds if not look for the KO. Chisora still landing jabs. Referee surprisingly inactive. Helenius pads away with the jab but it's ineffectual - he is as gassed as his physique suggests he should be. Chisora tired too and takes the back foot seemingly to get a breather. Chisora came forward again late on but I think Helenius' body language and jabs won him that round. 107-102 Chisora.

            Round 12
            Helenius' trainer very animated before the round - clearly wants his man to go out and KO Chisora. Lively start from both - Helenius landing well. Excellent trading halfway through. Chisora landing more; Helenius landing more accurately. Pick 'em so far. Helenius looks gassed. Chisora active. Helenius lands two big jabs. I think Helenius takes round 12 but it could have gone either way. I finish it 116-112 to Chisora.
            Last edited by whoelibits; 12-05-2011, 03:41 AM.

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            • #16
              Saureland is giving him a rematch and I think this needs to happen to settle the issue, although as far as robberies go it wasn't the worst by any means despite what people are saying. Duke McKenzie only gave it to Chisora by one round, which is more accurate than the six-ten round margin some are claiming. I suspect Hellenius will be better in the return.

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              • #17
                Major props to Chisora. Just goes to show what he can do when he is focused and in shape.

                Last nights version of Chisora would destroy any version of Tyson Fury.

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                • #18
                  Well I rewatched this just to make sure i wasn't drunk or something first time around and ended up scoring it pretty much the same again, conclusion: From the ref to the judges this fight was rigged the whole thing is disgusting and Saurland suck.

                  Round 1 - 10-9 chisora
                  Round 2 - 10-9 helenius *
                  Round 3 - 10-9 Chisora *
                  Round 4 - 10-9 chisora
                  Round 5- 10-9 Chisora
                  Round 6 - 10 -9 Helenius
                  Round 7 - 10-9 Helenius
                  Round 8 - 10-9 Chisora
                  Round 9 - 10-9 Chisora (Duke is a moron)
                  Round 10 - 10-9 Chisora
                  Round 11 - 10-9 Helenius *
                  Round 12 - 10-9 Chisora *

                  Final score 116 - 112 Chisora

                  * = close rounds that could have gone either way

                  I'd be interested to see how other people scored this and if anybody not blind/working for saurland/from finland had Helenius winning it.
                  Last edited by Daddy T; 12-05-2011, 09:02 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Money Shot View Post
                    Duke McKenzie only gave it to Chisora by one round, which is more accurate than the six-ten round margin some are claiming.
                    watch round 9 and say that again, duke can't score for ****.
                    Last edited by Daddy T; 12-05-2011, 09:05 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Who was the commentator who was giving Helenius rounds just because Chisora was showboating LOL.

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