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  • #51
    Originally posted by barryboy
    He's massive and slow & as soon as he steps up he'll get beat, I saw his last fight against Attila Levin and if Levin had a half decent chin then that would have been a good fight coz Levin was catching him with some good shots but the guys about 22/23 stone so he's got some weight behind his shots though he doesn't have any real snap on them, oh and he's got the biggest noggin i've ever seen
    Yes, he’s masssive – it’s a fact. But slow? Don’t confuse these two figures. He’s improving each fight and the speed is a skill he has yet. He’s not Mayweather but c’mon it’s a heavyweight. Show me another fast heavyweight. The only fast heavyweights are Tyson, Aly, may be some more but they are unique. Valuev’s speed equal to the speed of the all other modern top heavies.
    I can say more: he can do combos – it’s a rare thing at our days.
    Levin would lose anyhow ‘cause Valuev was fresh and very active. He let his hands fly and the reslult was the question of time. If Levin had a half decent chin then that would have been TKO 8...

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    • #52
      Don't be silly he makes Vitali look like Roy Jones! the guy pushes his punches, there's no real snap on them & he IS slow

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      • #53
        Originally posted by pbds
        .....I am very curious about him. From what I hear he seems to be improving with each fight. Who knows??
        It’s true. May be he is boring for somebody but it’s Valuev who’ll be the next heavyweight champion for 2-4 years.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by JPW
          in seriousness Valuev is improving, in fact he would be my pick to give vitali some problems as it would be the first time vitlali does not have the physical advantages.
          Vitali has nothing to beat Nikolai. May be experience and big heart.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by barryboy
            He just seems to be too slow and ponderous, I think Vitali's ponderous but this guy is worse, the lower level guys he'll beat simply because of his size and weight but once he gets in the top ten if he does I can see him getting shown up.
            Did you ever see Vitali? Lol Valuev would TKO foolish Williams in round 4. Williams was a punching bag that day and even with it Vitali did no one combo. Nikolai isn’t showy but the main thing in boxing is an effectness.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by joeboxer
              First off. He isn't getting any better. If you only saw his last fight it wasn't any better than his last ten. If he was getting better at 40 and 0 you would have heard of him before now. Even super-protected Joe Mesi was ranked number one and how many fights did he have? Not 40.
              Oh and if you think this guy is being kept away from Vitali. Google him, 3 years ago Vaulev could have fought Klitcho, Holyfield, or Oliver McCall but "contractual obligations" on his part made it so he couldn't leave the country.

              And Valuev isn't just massive. He is the biggest heavyweight to ever put gloves on. He is a skinny 350, but he can't box and he can't hit. If he was even an average boxer his size would make him unbeatable. But he isn't. And if he hasn't learned how to put his weight behind his punches yet he isn't going to.

              someone said byrd is to slick for him, wrong. Bryd is probably the only one he could beat. As soon as Valuev fights a heavyweight with a good punch and average skills he is going to get KO'd.

              Just a few months ago Valuev took on the Austrailian bronze medalist from the 2000 olympics. Are any of the other contenders going after boxers with that little experience. If Valuev isn't ready for a gold medalist from 2000, than he isn't ready for anyone in the top ten.
              Don’t confuse the Valuev team and Valuev the boxer. The team can do anything but it hasn’t any relation to the boxer’s skills.

              Did you forget whom Rahman beat during the last year? Did you forget Moli The Crawling?

              No one of Valuev’s previous opponents could even rage him.
              All your words are the voice of the soul not brain. You may like or dislike Valuev but the facts are still fat. He’s undefeated and was never really hurted. ****o for example was undefeated and if he’d never met Nikovai he could become solid contender, I don’t sure that Vitali would beat Richard ****o. It’a clever boxer with a small pro experience but great skills and shape.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Javary
                Valuev probably would get beat of Vitali but so would most fighters in the heavyweight division but to simply dismiss him would be a mistake, OK so he's not the biggest hitter, which is strange considering his size, but he CAN box! which is even more stranger. If you look at the heavyweights that have fought for titles lately then why shouldnt Valuev get a shot? who else is out there? Samuel Peter? who in my opinion is another who'll fall when he steps up, Dominick Guinn? Kali Meehan? Jameel McCline? Audley Harrison(HAHA)? or even unbeaten Calvin Brock? These guys are no better than Valuev possibly even worse! so give the big guy a break, he's all thats out there.

                PS IMO its a real shame that Ike Ibeabuchi never got parole in August because it would have probably shook up this division a bit.
                The power of his punches always grows. But his punches are breaking yet. The cause of this is his weight. When he will become a true puncher he will incinerate each opponent. He’s not Carnera he’s the first giant guy with a talent.
                All your other words are exact as a clock.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by diz82
                  He looked ok there, no real footwork ot speak of though. All in all im not convinced
                  Footwork? Who does the footwork that convince you?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by masha
                    Valuev head is simply too big. He will get caught regularly by someone like klitschko. I can't even see him beating golota.

                    he need to step up his comp and try to make an impact. with that height, he can be a champion, but only if he beats brewster or ruiz.
                    Simply big? And what about Julius Long or Marcellous Brown? He’s talented fighter. Not genius but talented. And he’s a great worker.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by BOKSukraine
                      I don't think he is deserving of being ranked 7th, meaning I think that there are more than 6 heavies that could beat him 2/3 times. I saw the guy fight on ESPN some years back and got a clip of him recently, and though he does look like he kinda knows what's going on now, he is still just silly as far as boxing skill and quickness. Still though, 7'2" will give anybody problems.
                      Give your arguments please. What figure of his skill is worse than the same one of Kiltchko, or coward Mccline, or Golota, or Peter, or Whitaker, or Ruiz, or Big George?

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