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  • #51
    and i'm saying give me an example of boxers who have faced a better quality of opposition (guys who can punch, not necessarily known punchers or punchers) in their first ten fights.

    Khan has had 11 fights but his first five opponents and his last five are of the same caliber.......****e

    Scott Harrison fought two time world champion Tracy Harris Patterson on his 11th fight and put on a great display.

    Khan will get to Eruro level if he's lucky but I cant see him lasting too long in boxing coz his Ego is signing cheques that his talent cant cash.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by kerrminator View Post
      Khan has had 11 fights but his first five opponents and his last five are of the same caliber.......****e

      Scott Harrison fought two time world champion Tracy Harris Patterson on his 11th fight and put on a great display.

      Khan will get to Eruro level if he's lucky but I cant see him lasting too long in boxing coz his Ego is signing cheques that his talent cant cash.
      thats another exception to the rule. my post was in response to someone saying it was uncommon for a boxer to start his career with the low-level opposition khan has been put in with, whereas i think this is the norm. joe calzaghe, naseem hamed, nigel benn, ricky hatton etc etc..all great boxers who's early fights were littered with record-padders...

      i don't know how far khan will get...but i'm willing to give him a chance. i'm not saying i like him as a personality, but he's entertaining to watch and has breathed some life into the domestic boxing scene. the way i see it, if he follows the path of the average prospect, he should be in with a top domestic fighter by the end of the year. if this doesn't happen then i'll readily sign up to the khan hate brigade and only ever make posts about his "proven" glass chin / protective manager / feather-fisted opponents.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by rooq View Post
        thats another exception to the rule. my post was in response to someone saying it was uncommon for a boxer to start his career with the low-level opposition khan has been put in with, whereas i think this is the norm. joe calzaghe, naseem hamed, nigel benn, ricky hatton etc etc..all great boxers who's early fights were littered with record-padders...

        i don't know how far khan will get...but i'm willing to give him a chance. i'm not saying i like him as a personality, but he's entertaining to watch and has breathed some life into the domestic boxing scene. the way i see it, if he follows the path of the average prospect, he should be in with a top domestic fighter by the end of the year. if this doesn't happen then i'll readily sign up to the khan hate brigade and only ever make posts about his "proven" glass chin / protective manager / feather-fisted opponents.
        I guess Witter is an exception, huh? Tenth fight was against Jan Bergman.

        And I in no way "hate" Khan. I think that he's very skilled. Said that before.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by K-Nine View Post
          I guess Witter is an exception, huh? Tenth fight was against Jan Bergman.

          And I in no way "hate" Khan. I think that he's very skilled. Said that before.
          yes...another exception

          the main point i'm making is that there are plenty of great boxers (like i mentioned in that post) who's early fights were against equally low quality opposition....i don't think you can judge how far he'll get on that basis.

          are witter and harrison better boxers than calzaghe or benn because they fought a good opponent in their first ten fights? no.

          but as i said...if he hasn't fought someone good by the end of the year, then i would say he's progressing too slowly and is being over-protected. until then he's just an unproven prospect.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by rooq View Post
            yes...another exception

            the main point i'm making is that there are plenty of great boxers (like i mentioned in that post) who's early fights were against equally low quality opposition....i don't think you can judge how far he'll get on that basis.

            are witter and harrison better boxers than calzaghe or benn because they fought a good opponent in their first ten fights? no.

            but as i said...if he hasn't fought someone good by the end of the year, then i would say he's progressing too slowly and is being over-protected. until then he's just an unproven prospect.
            I'm glad we can be sensible about this, though. No name-calling..... unlike some other members.

            But look at these bums on the records. I'm not saying that they're good fighters. But the fights that they DO win, are won through AT LEAST a few ko's.

            For example. Calzaghe fights John Doe. John Doe has a record of 4-6-1. But the fights that he DID win, may have some knockouts. Like he'll have a 50% Knockout ratio.

            Witter shows not even THAT.

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            • #56
              my last word because we aren't going to convince each other who is in the right.

              i think khans opponents have had maybe 30 or so ko's between them which is not as many as you might like but its something. maybe khans opponents are of a lower quality then these other guys but it is difficult to make that kind of comparison - in the end you can just look at a boxers record which doesn't really tell you everything you need to know.

              even so, i personally will be giving him a few more fights before judging him. not much more to say really...its a wait-and-see situation.

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              • #57
                Khan is Warrens only real money maker now Hattons left and Scott Harrison spanish nightmare has left Warren with no real box office draw and soon to retire joe calzaghe will leave warren having to go back to the small hall fights, so if he can shield Khan until he can get him on to PPV which is going to b a strugle since Sky ditched him, could this be one of the reasons who Khan is being shielded so much, and the fact Warren twisted Khan and his people to go pro far to early.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by rooq View Post
                  my last word because we aren't going to convince each other who is in the right.

                  i think khans opponents have had maybe 30 or so ko's between them which is not as many as you might like but its something. maybe khans opponents are of a lower quality then these other guys but it is difficult to make that kind of comparison - in the end you can just look at a boxers record which doesn't really tell you everything you need to know.

                  even so, i personally will be giving him a few more fights before judging him. not much more to say really...its a wait-and-see situation.
                  But you're wrong...... beacause I DO agree with you.

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