Greatest multi weight world champion?

[BuddyChacon]

OK, I can see you chaps want to limit yourselves. I've never seen Joe Calzaghe fight, so no conclusions can be drawn as to his merit according to y'all.

So instead we'll get some modern know nothing who insists that Floyd or Roy is the best ever without any basis in fact or history.

Yeah, no film footage exists of the Civil War, so we don't really know how horrible it was. No film footage = no history in the new world order.

Sho'nuff Hoss!

The Cival War point was a good one. I am wrong okay. Their is no Sugar Ray Robinson welterweight footage and we know how great he was beating everyone at that weight.

[Yogi]

Their is no Sugar Ray Robinson welterweight footage

Yes there is, but not much.

Two fights of him at that weight that I know of...one versus Charley Fusari in a 1950 title defense at welter (I own about 10 to 15 minutes worth), and another one from either '46 or '47 against Sammy Angott (I've never seen).

[BuddyChacon]

Yes there is, but not much.

Two fights of him at that weight that I know of...one versus Charley Fusari in a 1950 title defense at welter (I own about 10 to 15 minutes worth), and another one from either '46 or '47 against Sammy Angott (I've never seen).

I have seen the Charley Fusari fight a couple of rounds worth myself. I am an idiot okay, I just forgot and was trying to make a point. I agree with you two guys.

[MickyHatton]

OK, I can see you chaps want to limit yourselves. I've never seen Joe Calzaghe fight, so no conclusions can be drawn as to his merit according to y'all.

So instead we'll get some modern know nothing who insists that Floyd or Roy is the best ever without any basis in fact or history.

Yeah, no film footage exists of the Civil War, so we don't really know how horrible it was. No film footage = no history in the new world order.

Sho'nuff Hoss!

No, I can see and understand your point and its a good one but Calzaghe is of now therefore you/us can hear the many different opinions of him usually from people we know, know of and in some cases trust however we cannot easily do that in the case of the fighters born before we were born.
In those cases we have to take at face value what has been written or said, therefore I am most comfortable making comments on fighters from the 70's onwards because they are of my era.

As for the Civil War, obviously we know it was horrible as every account says it was but I'm sure there are different accounts of severity based on which side you were on etc and who won, like any propaganda/account it will never be 100% truthful or correct.

Or are we saying because hundreds of years ago they wrote the World was flat or that Witches floated and non Witches sank that they were 100% right?

[MickyHatton]

Any chance we can get back to the theme of the thread, LondonRingRules thinks I should study more and maybe he is right!

Who is in your opinion is the Greatest multi weight champion of all time regardless of when he was around!

[BuddyChacon]

Tommy Hearns was a good one considering how high in weight he moved up to do it. Chavez seemed to get better when he moved up in weight. Henry Armstrong would be my pick though since he jumped origanal weight classes(no junior or super weight) Feather, Light and Welter and drew with the Middleweight champion. He was also the undisputed champ which proves alot.

[LondonRingRules]

Or are we saying because hundreds of years ago they wrote the World was flat or that Witches floated and non Witches sank that they were 100% right?

** Nah, we have video claiming Iraq was filled with WMDs and Enron was awash in assets and Barry Bonds was clean.

Forget about all that old school mythology. Today is the only day that counts!

[Left2body]

Duran is tremendous also. He wont belts from 135lbs to 160lbs. He pretty much skipped over jrWW to go to WW to fight big names like SRL, but does anyone doubt he could've unified the belt at jrrWW?

Remember prime Duran with time to hea/restl and train defeated a prime SRL no excuses after coming up in weight.

Would Duran have beaten SRL if the turn around time for there 2nd fight was a bit longer......maybe/maybe not but I think it would've been more competitive at the very least.

But at the end of the day Duran can say he ducked no one and took on the best fighters of his Era, an Era brimming with talent.

[MickyHatton]

Duran is tremendous also. He wont belts from 135lbs to 160lbs. He pretty much skipped over jrWW to go to WW to fight big names like SRL, but does anyone doubt he could've unified the belt at jrrWW?

Remember prime Duran with time to hea/restl and train defeated a prime SRL no excuses after coming up in weight.

Would Duran have beaten SRL if the turn around time for there 2nd fight was a bit longer......maybe/maybe not but I think it would've been more competitive at the very least.

But at the end of the day Duran can say he ducked no one and took on the best fighters of his Era, an Era brimming with talent.

No arguments there, with him being naturally the smallest of those mentioned he obviously had the biggest hurdles to jump, great fighter, like Hearns when he met Hagler, Hearns to Duran was just too strong and a step too far but easily for me in the top five of all time in this list!

[BuddyChacon]

Duran is tremendous also. He wont belts from 135lbs to 160lbs. He pretty much skipped over jrWW to go to WW to fight big names like SRL, but does anyone doubt he could've unified the belt at jrrWW?

Remember prime Duran with time to hea/restl and train defeated a prime SRL no excuses after coming up in weight.

Would Duran have beaten SRL if the turn around time for there 2nd fight was a bit longer......maybe/maybe not but I think it would've been more competitive at the very least.

But at the end of the day Duran can say he ducked no one and took on the best fighters of his Era, an Era brimming with talent.

If I am not mistaken Duran lost to Benitez at JrWW.