Ali sports century

[Yogi]

Good info Yogi but every good debate needs a counter-arguement, so about a pro-Marciano one for the future?

I see your mention of the words "good debate" and say that you have nothing to worry about, Chum, as Butterfly has never even got within sniffing distance of taking part in a "good debate" or even a mediocre one.

[butterfly1964]

I have a bunch of stories, but I don't know what you're specifically after, Butterfly...But, as one who is anti-Marciano, here's a quick little quote you can use next time you're in a discussion about him, and it also stays with the "possible fixed fights" theme from around that time;


"We took the Beshore match with the condition that Rocky wouldn't have to fight too hard," Chick Wergeles said. "Frankie Carbo came out to Boston to make sure that things went all right." - from Skeehan's bio on Marciano (page 158)

Why does everybody say that? I'm not anti-Marciano. I'm anti anyone who overrates either marciano or any other fighter I feel has not lived up to the hype, but I'm not anti-Marciano at all.

[butterfly1964]

I see your mention of the words "good debate" and say that you have nothing to worry about, Chum, as Butterfly has never even got within sniffing distance of taking part in a "good debate" or even a mediocre one.

Have I done anything to you?

[Yogi]

I'm just teasing you a bit in fun, Butterfly...as it always is.

[butterfly1964]

I'm just teasing you a bit in fun, Butterfly...as it always is.

Oh, ok.

[SABBATH]

Probably because both fighters were a part of the army and had agreed to donate their purses to the Army Fund. If that fight was anyhting like Louis' rematch with Baer, odds are the army asked the fighters in advance in they were willing to give up their purses for the fight....

Yogi, I keep meaning to post this. Not to beat a dead horse or anything but regarding Abe Simon getting a title shot rematch immediately after being KO'd by Lem Franklin, I checked with historians Monte Cox and Mike Casey and they both drew blanks as to why Simon was chosen for another title fight and Franklin never got his shot. It also appears that Abe Simon was not in the Army.