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  • #11
    McVey was a powerhouse legend. He was measured on early PSI machines as having a punch of 1300 PSI, well over what Fitzsimmons and Jeffries were hitting at. Just look at the guy's physique, he was Mike Tyson if Tyson could have been that big using early 1900 training methods and diet. A naturally strong and immensely powerful guy.

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    • #12
      Wasn't Sam Mcvey from Oxnard, Ca?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles View Post
        McVey was a powerhouse legend. He was measured on early PSI machines as having a punch of 1300 PSI, well over what Fitzsimmons and Jeffries were hitting at. Just look at the guy's physique, he was Mike Tyson if Tyson could have been that big using early 1900 training methods and diet. A naturally strong and immensely powerful guy.
        It's called working on the Farms and other heavy duty Labor jobs, and the rest is genetic.

        And like I mentioned way back, they had bodybuilders back then that new about weightlifting...hell, they knew about it back in ancient times.

        Look at the similarity of Mike and Sam...plus, didn't Sam die in New York?



        Last edited by Abe Attell; 10-13-2006, 06:04 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by ferocity View Post
          Wasn't Sam Mcvey from Oxnard, Ca?

          That is what it is listed as
          Last edited by Abe Attell; 10-13-2006, 06:10 PM.

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          • #15
            Was Sam just a "RAW" fighter or did he have a "Trainer" ?

            I remember reading an article, not sure how accurate, that said Sam Langford didn't want to teach McVey how to throw a proper punch, preferably the jab

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Abe Attell View Post
              That is what it is listed as
              Yeah, i read that he was from the east then live in Oxnard for a while probably the remainder of his life, which is why they probably have his homtown being from Oxnard.

              Before boxrec and their fourm i never never knew who sam mcvey was nor that he represented Oxnard.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ferocity View Post
                Yeah, i read that he was from the east then live in Oxnard for a while probably the remainder of his life, which is why they probably have his homtown being from Oxnard.

                Before boxrec and their fourm i never never knew who sam mcvey was nor that he represented Oxnard.
                http://www.ibhof.com/mcvey.htm

                Sam McVey
                GENERALLY REGARDED as one of the best heavyweights of his era, McVey never got to fight for the world title. He was born in Oxnard, California on May 17, 1885. He stood a shade over 5-10, and weighed 200lbs. In his prime, McVey was a hard puncher and possessed fine defensive skills. He turned pro in 1902, and a year later was matched against future heavyweight champ Jack Johnson. Although Johnson won the fight, it went the 20-round limit.
                Since few mix-race bouts were made during the era that McVey fought in, most of his opponents were black. He fought fellow Hall of Famers Joe Jeanette and Harry Wills five times apiece and battled Sam Langford 15 times.

                McVey's most memorable bout took place April 17, 1909 against Jeannette in Paris. He knocked down Jeannette 27 times and was sent to the deck 11 times himself before he was forced to quit in Round 50, because his eyes had been swollen to the point he could no longer see.

                Although McVey seldom fought white fighters and never fought for the title, his exceptional ability, more than his skin color, was the reason. Historians have overlooked the fact that McVey's prime took place during the reign of Jack Johnson (1908-1915). During his reign, Johnson put his title on the line 11 times, but only once, against Jim Johnson in 1914, was his challenger black.

                McVey did square off with Johnson in a six-round exhibition in Havana two days before Johnson lost the title to Jess Willard. Johnson, who was six years older than McVey, owned three hard-fought victories over the Californian (W 20, W 20, KO 20). However, all three bouts took place before McVey's 19th birthday.

                During his 82-bout career, which lasted from 1902-1920, McVey fought all over the world including, England, Australia, Cuba, Chile and Argentina and amassed a record of 63 wins, 15 losses, 12 draws and 2 No Contests with 46 knockouts. He died on Dec. 23, 1921 in New York City.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Abe Attell View Post
                  Quality isn't so good, but they tried

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax3gG2CbzdA






                  Here are some others, Sam Langford
                  http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...y=Sam+Langford

                  - -Early uploaded days many in the day were instrumental in bringing to the public.

                  I must've scored 200-300 of these fights in that golden era lost again to the public.

                  What goes around comes around as the old saying goes.

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