How would a well motivated undistracted Tyson have fought in his 30s?

[a.rihn]

I don't think the narrative about D'Amato and ROoney is overstated. Tyson was a headcase who was terribly abused and need stability in his life. With them gone, he went off the rails.

Tyson had good trainers. I don't doubt that he would he become a better inside fighter.

Beyond that, who knows. But it's very likely that he could have continued to succeed.

They learned a lot since Patterson.

I agree about the importance of D'Amato and Rooney. If I implied that their influence was anything less than central to Tyson's maturation, then that was a mistake on my part.

There's the question of Tyson's own personal stability, mentally and emotionally, and then also the stability of those around him.

[Luilun]

- -Canelo, JCChavez, Manny, Jimmy McLarnin, ect as infinitum turned pro 15-16.

Not TUE 51-0...

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[QueensburyRules]

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[Rusty Tromboni]

I agree about the importance of D'Amato and Rooney. If I implied that their influence was anything less than central to Tyson's maturation, then that was a mistake on my part.

There's the question of Tyson's own personal stability, mentally and emotionally, and then also the stability of those around him.

Yeah, and they were never going to make Tyson into versatile fighter like Emile Griffith, or Carlos oRtiz, or Evander Holyfield. But he needn't be to remain effective.

I conceded the reason he was fighting Lewis decades after he first won the belt was largeley on name value. But he still had a chin and a punch.

Even if he fell off early, he wasn't going to hit a wall like Patterson or Charles. The Heavyweight division just wasn't that good. The best guy pre-Vitali was Lewis. A good fighter, and maybe one that would always have Tyson's number (the topic for a different conversation) but far from a dominant, imposing figure who lorded over the division.

It's really not unimaginable that Tyson would have remained a dominant force even after many of his physical skills failed him. And we shouldn't talk like he was about to hit a sudden precipice in that department, either.