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  • #11
    Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
    Tunney and Langford too? Not so sure about that.
    The operative word I used was MAY, lad, meaning he gives any of them a good fight, though not necessarily a powdering.

    Fear not, the forum dunceheimer desperate to bait me would be in a quandary if the need arose to bet on an actual mythical matchup between the injun and my tar goblin, for instance. It would not be easy nor automatic to bet on the tar goblin if your life or your entire fortune were on the line. By buggery, that's close to a pick 'em fight anyway.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
      The operative word I used was MAY, lad, meaning he gives any of them a good fight, though not necessarily a powdering.

      Fear not, the forum dunceheimer desperate to bait me would be in a quandary if the need arose to bet on an actual mythical matchup between the injun and my tar goblin, for instance. It would not be easy nor automatic to bet on the tar goblin if your life or your entire fortune were on the line. By buggery, that's close to a pick 'em fight anyway.
      Can you please explain how you think Lopez beats Langford?

      It's easy to claim it's possible, but you clam up when you have to explain why.

      Even you aren't so lacking in Boxing knowledge so as to miss the fact that standing in front of Langford a attacking recklessly is a terrible idea.

      Langford was beatable, but Lopez didn't have the skill or tools to do it.

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      • #13
        Since you must be (from the sound of it) someone who knows more about Langford than is even possible, why would I want to argue or discuss it with you? For we mere mortals there are many question marks associated with Langford due to the paucity of film, but you are not mortal, so of course you divine many things the rest of us cannot.

        Sammy is still 5'7" and fighting either overweight or past prime at light heavy, that gives Yaqui some kind of chance. Even his punch will translate harder with the old horse hair gloves kneaded to pronounce his knuckles. He has a decent punch, but a swarmer's punch. An active swarmer always has a chance to inflict cuts.

        Also mortals (not yourself) need to remember that prime Langford would likely be in for a life and death struggle against the likes of the welterweight Duran that snapped Palamino and Brooks off at the ankles and legitimately whipped Ray Leonard. I would also expect Sammy to have a big struggle with fearless Mickey Walker as well.

        Lopez is a face-first fighter all right, but he had the right chin to go with that attitude. Langford is not dumping him out of there right away. Duran's technique would be hyper modern and befuddling to my tar bot. Mickey Walker? I do not expect Langford to immediately dump him, either. They would all have time to beat Langford, if they can. If Langford has to struggle with them he will also struggle with the likes of Lopez.

        In a life and death struggle to the end Langford, Walker and Duran might all beat Yaqui Lopez, who was a natural light heavyweight. All the fights would be brutal, however.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
          so now you indian.. ok.. who the **** pluck are you??
          axx clown..

          i forget.. i don't hold grudges.. you maintain ******idty
          Wtf? Are you talking about. You missed the whole point and you are making shhhit up. People like you fake internet **** talking wanna be tough guys is what makes it hard to participate on sites like this.
          And with that being said I will like to say I share my location so if you are ever in nyc we can meet up and shake out like the men you love to criticize who participate in a sport that you seem to know nothing about.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            Since you must be (from the sound of it) someone who knows more about Langford than is even possible, why would I want to argue or discuss it with you? For we mere mortals there are many question marks associated with Langford due to the paucity of film, but you are not mortal, so of course you divine many things the rest of us cannot.

            Sammy is still 5'7" and fighting either overweight or past prime at light heavy, that gives Yaqui some kind of chance. Even his punch will translate harder with the old horse hair gloves kneaded to pronounce his knuckles. He has a decent punch, but a swarmer's punch. An active swarmer always has a chance to inflict cuts.

            Also mortals (not yourself) need to remember that prime Langford would likely be in for a life and death struggle against the likes of the welterweight Duran that snapped Palamino and Brooks off at the ankles and legitimately whipped Ray Leonard. I would also expect Sammy to have a big struggle with fearless Mickey Walker as well.

            Lopez is a face-first fighter all right, but he had the right chin to go with that attitude. Langford is not dumping him out of there right away. Duran's technique would be hyper modern and befuddling to my tar bot. Mickey Walker? I do not expect Langford to immediately dump him, either. They would all have time to beat Langford, if they can. If Langford has to struggle with them he will also struggle with the likes of Lopez.

            In a life and death struggle to the end Langford, Walker and Duran might all beat Yaqui Lopez, who was a natural light heavyweight. All the fights would be brutal, however.
            LOL, he'd probably struggle w/ Pernell Whitaker and muhammad ali.

            Like I said, this is about LOPEZ. No one else. He doesn't have Walker's pressure, and he doesn't have Duran's guile.

            He stands there and trades. His punch selection isn't bad, but he forces himself into firefights all wrong. Against Franklin it's OK, but against Langford he's doing what everyone else Langford fought did. We have sufficient footage of Langford and his opposition to acknowledge that. Sure, Lopez has a more modern stance, he keeps his hands at his chin pretty well. But he walks right into the line of fire. And nothing about his punches makes me think Langford will have any trouble diffusing that offense.

            Walker and Duran showed that Boxing doesn't have to be Kimbo-style backyard brawls. They get inside and go work. Lopez couldn't bore through like that. He picked the wrong range, and his punches lacked the speed and power to overwhelm Sam. Bigger stronger men couldn't, so why would Lopez? You really think he's more dangerous than Wills?

            a lot of what makes Franklin-Lopez II so exciting is that they are reckless. They eschew the guidelines and go for broke. Neither really has the power to make the other pay. So they keep going down that path. You can't fight like that against some one good. Look at Mayweather-Alvarez, and compare it to Gatti-Ward.

            a lot of the finer points of Boxing have come as the sport has become safer. It's basically pillow-fighting for grown men at this point. Look at how Boxers do in Kickboxing. And kickboxers do in MMA. The more rules you add, the more refined the sport becomes. But Lopez, while more refined than most fighters of 50 years prior, wasn't a Duran or McGirt, or Marquez.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
              Wtf? Are you talking about. You missed the whole point and you are making shhhit up. People like you fake internet **** talking wanna be tough guys is what makes it hard to participate on sites like this.
              And with that being said I will like to say I share my location so if you are ever in nyc we can meet up and shake out like the men you love to criticize who participate in a sport that you seem to know nothing about.
              teach me teach me in japaqnese, hebrew or spanish>>>???


              nobody is stopping you from not participating on this site cabrona
              Last edited by Zaroku; 10-19-2019, 08:13 AM.

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              • #17
                Anyone want to try to explain how Lopez gets past Loughran's jab?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                  Anyone want to try to explain how Lopez gets past Loughran's jab?
                  coke caaaina.. or that drink they drink.. fermented cactus that my wife and i use to clean our floors.???

                  bro.. you got me good this time..

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                  • #19
                    - -Just a reminder that Yaqui is still with us today tuffer'n than yer old boots.

                    And widely respected in his community!!!

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