who could stop tyson back in the day?

[Pork Chop]

on the inside frazier is better then tyson. and tysons punch output dont fall dramactically i dont know what dvd u watchin. and tyson did cut up quite a few ppl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzAtBmrgsw

where is that punch output?
where did it go?
Don't tell me Green was doing all the holding, most of those clinches are initiated by tyson.
The Tyson in that clip would've been DESTROYED by frazier and that's still falls within the mysterious and ever-shrinking Tyson "prime".

[Southpaw Stinger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzAtBmrgsw

where is that punch output?
where did it go?
Don't tell me Green was doing all the holding, most of those clinches are initiated by tyson.
The Tyson in that clip would've been DESTROYED by frazier and that's still falls within the mysterious and ever-shrinking Tyson "prime".

I think Tysons prime was probably only the minute and half the spinks fight lasted!

[K-DOGG]

If nobody has mentioned him yet (long thread, haven't read it all), I'd like to add Big George Godfrey's name to the mix as another historical heavyweight that stood a very good chance of beating a young Mike Tyson at his best.

Agreed....if Tyson didn't get frustrated with this tactics and bite a titty off.



CALM DOWN, ALL!!

[Verstyle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzAtBmrgsw

where is that punch output?
where did it go?
Don't tell me Green was doing all the holding, most of those clinches are initiated by tyson.
The Tyson in that clip would've been DESTROYED by frazier and that's still falls within the mysterious and ever-shrinking Tyson "prime".

your going off 1 fight.and in that fight all he tried throwing is the left hook cause green had fast hands. so really bad fight to go by. neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext

[Pork Chop]

your going off 1 fight.and in that fight all he tried throwing is the left hook cause green had fast hands. so really bad fight to go by. neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext

And you're rating Frazier's chin on his first fight against Foreman neeeeeeext

[Verstyle]

And you're rating Frazier's chin on his first fight against Foreman neeeeeeext

wonder why your red. where in the hell did i say that? show me please,i will be waiting

[Pork Chop]

Prior to that Foreman fight, Frazier was known for having one of the sturdiest chins in boxing. Afterwards he gets this reputation of being vulnerable to a big hitter. I doubt he'd be so low on most people's "vs Tyson" lists if it weren't for that fight.

BTW- I'm red from one particular poster from Team Pinoy testing out his karmic affect, "nothing personal".

And if you're going to get on me for being a prick, you might want to try not talking like one yourself, coz i merely repeated your own silly argument.

If you want to make excuses for all of Tyson's bad performances, fine, but don't expect people who like other boxers not to break out their own reasons for their favorite boxer's shortcomings.

The truth of the matter is that Tyson wouldn't be guaranteed to plow through Joe, in fact Tyson didn't have much taste for the type of trench warefare that Frazier would force upon him.

I don't think either wins automatically, because we can never know for sure, but trying to say an atg like Frazier doesn't have a good chance is ludicrous.

[Verstyle]

Prior to that Foreman fight, Frazier was known for having one of the sturdiest chins in boxing. Afterwards he gets this reputation of being vulnerable to a big hitter. I doubt he'd be so low on most people's "vs Tyson" lists if it weren't for that fight.

BTW- I'm red from one particular poster from Team Pinoy testing out his karmic affect, "nothing personal".

And if you're going to get on me for being a prick, you might want to try not talking like one yourself, coz i merely repeated your own silly argument.

If you want to make excuses for all of Tyson's bad performances, fine, but don't expect people who like other boxers not to break out their own reasons for their favorite boxer's shortcomings.

The truth of the matter is that Tyson wouldn't be guaranteed to plow through Joe, in fact Tyson didn't have much taste for the type of trench warefare that Frazier would force upon him.

I don't think either wins automatically, because we can never know for sure, but trying to say an atg like Frazier doesn't have a good chance is ludicrous.

so r u finally stating i didnt say that. thats all i needed not the full paragraph. and i like having intelligent conversations about boxers.that doesnt go on around here that much anymore.

[Pork Chop]

Yeah, I was a bit verbose.

Thanks, nice to know we're on the same page.

With as many times as I've lived in San Antonio (it's kind of my hometown), I've never actually boxed around there. Next time I'm down there, would love to check out your gym.

[Verstyle]

Yeah, I was a bit verbose.

Thanks, nice to know we're on the same page.

With as many times as I've lived in San Antonio (it's kind of my hometown), I've never actually boxed around there. Next time I'm down there, would love to check out your gym.

go to san fernando. my gym sucks