Top 15 Light Heavyweights

[QueensburyRules]

Again, nothing Loughran and Conn didn't do better, or faster.

Tunney would wipe his ass w/ Moore. Not even close.

Do you really see Moore beating Baer or Carnera? Let alone he never beat Greb, Tunney, or Slattery.

Do we really think Moore is a sure bet to beat the Bradock who fought baer and Louis.

I would pick that guy to at least last the distance against Marciano. and school Tarver.


Really, the story of Moore is a nice one. But so are those shows on Lifetime that you love so much,

Both unfortunately are only "based on real events". Whatever the **** that means.

- -No doubt shows on lifetime mean much to your development, but not myself since I aint polluted myself with tv in 20 years.

You a rusty bucket who don't know it...yet , but we see you leaking copiously.

[Rusty Tromboni]

- -No doubt shows on lifetime mean much to your development, but not myself since I aint polluted myself with tv in 20 years.

You a rusty bucket who don't know it...yet , but we see you leaking copiously.

20 years ago... isn't that exactly when Lifetime went off the air?

Explains why you slink around here, all grouchy and out of place.


How about responding to one of my questions to prove you know anything about Boxing.

[QueensburyRules]

20 years ago... isn't that exactly when Lifetime went off the air?

Explains why you slink around here, all grouchy and out of place.


How about responding to one of my questions to prove you know anything about Boxing.

- -Dunno, by then I was only watching limited public broadcasting like McNeil/Lehrer.

Immersing in the fetid stink of today's tv culture is like swimming in formerly pristine swimming holes.

Don't do that either because I might spot you in between being a floater or a sinker.

[Rusty Tromboni]

- -Dunno, by then I was only watching limited public broadcasting like McNeil/Lehrer.

Immersing in the fetid stink of today's tv culture is like swimming in formerly pristine swimming holes.

Don't do that either because I might spot you in between being a floater or a sinker.

Spoken like a true grande dame. Honestly, Queenie, we'd expect nothing less.


No where is your list?

When are you going to admit that Moore and Jones never pulled off anything like Loughran's out-boxing Baer and Carnera?

[QueensburyRules]

- -Never said a bad word about Tommy.

Gotta pic of yer GI Joe and Barbie collection?

[just the facts]

I just can't see how any legitimate list couldn't have Foster at least top 5.

[Rusty Tromboni]

I just can't see how any legitimate list couldn't have Foster at least top 5.

Simple math.


If there are more than 5 better fighters, he falls behind them on the list.

There's only 4 spots ahead of 5th place on your conventional ordinal numbering system.

[just the facts]

Simple math.


If there are more than 5 better fighters, he falls behind them on the list.

There's only 4 spots ahead of 5th place on your conventional ordinal numbering system.

Go be a f&ck head to someone else. Not interested in your childish shyte.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Go be a f&ck head to someone else. Not interested in your childish shyte.

I don't know why you are offended.

If you knew Boxing, you would know that Foster was a fabulous finisher. Not just one of the best of his division, but one of the best ever, at any weight. But that's about where it ends. He fell somewhere between Wilder and Louis, he liked when his opponents came at him, and made themselves avaialable to hit.

He was no Julian Jackson. (It took bona fide heavyweights to stop him). But outside of occassionaly using his long, long jab, he was really nothing more than somebody who knocked out people who were put in front of him to be knocked out. That's why his various attempts at the Heavyweight division failed miserably, but his tenure at 175 against relatively unheralded competition was such a theatrical success. Finnegan, Tiger, Quarry were all tough mother ****ers. Very hard men. But that's all they were. They had shown up, armed with knives, to a gun fight. Foster was carrying a glock.

And reference to the Fourie fight isn't over-played. Foster didn't handle movers well. theoretically, he'd make himself a game challenger against any other Light HEavyweight if he were to stay behind that telephone pole of a jab. But he was no Tommy Hearns - switching seemlessly between refined boxer, and lethal puncher, while exploiting his heighth and reach.

You can imagine he had it in him, but we never really saw him win a fight that way. And it discredits that far superior boxers of the Light Heavyweight division whom we saw adapt and overcome stiffer challenges. Instead, we see a guy hunched over, looking to bomb-out shorter undergunned opponents.

The footage says it all. Foster was lethal. But the Light Heavyweight division has seen men more skilled with better records. Take a look at my list, and you'll see what's up.

[Rusty Tromboni]

I actually think foster performs HORRIBLY head-to-head against the ATGs. He might beat most of their competition faster and more violently than they did, but he loses to fighters who won't fight how he needs them to fight.

Tunney would be wasting his time in there... while he could shut-out Foster w/ his defense, he might wreck Foster w/ his power-punching.

Charles might hit some rough spots, but ultimately his offense overwhelms Foster.

Conn essentially does what Ali did, just he needs more rounds to do it.

Moore - I dunno. It's a thriller, though. Even if he wins, Foster has his hands full. Moore is a better puncher than anyone the first incarnation of Foster fought, albeit he was young.

Foster might get shut-out in Philly:
Qawi would be an underdog, but cannot be ruled out. Jonson outclasses him. Loughran embarasses him.

Spinks does the inverse of Charles. Rather than imposing himself on Foster, I think he makes good use of distance and range, making the fight happen where he wants it. On paper it looks like they have the same size and dimensions, and maybe Bob is the better puncher. But if you look at their fights, you'll see that really isn't how it played out. Spinks isn't a Light heavyweight Benitez, but his craftiness is more effective than anything Fourie could achieve.

Rosenbloom is a question mark, as we have no footage. But his record is mint. When his reflexes finally failed him, he proved he had a KO punch. It's a blind bet, but my money's on him; not the guy who had his hands full w/ Finnegan.