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[Big G Foreman]

Here would be a better post topic.Could just one time somebody makes a post and have a clue to what they are talking about?Baer isn't any where near as skilled as Foreman.Look at the 2 fighters too beat a prime Foreman and then look at the first 2 guys to beat Baer.Over 20 men went the distance with Baer while only 8 of Foremans wins wern't by knockout which ment Foreman was alot harder puncher not to mention fighters in Baer's time wore smaller gloves and Foreman fought tougher opponents.
The fight would be similar too Foreman Lyle?Really why would you even think this?Baer was knocked out many times in his career punchers who had less pop than Foreman.Joe Louis who was probably the best fighter Baer fought beat him with ease.Louis himself is overrated fighting bum after bum after bum only fighter 2 black men in his whole career and neither of them would be considered heavweights today.
Foreman also had one of the best chins in boxing history.Don't use the Lyle fight to show he could be down.Lyle could **** no doubt about it but do you really think Lyle punched harder than lets say Shannon Briggs who Foreman fought 20 years later?Briggs landed some bombs but they had no effect so he ran.Foreman was knocked down by Lyle probably because he was rusty and his ego had been destroyed by losing to Ali.
The myth about Foreman being a poor boxer always cracks me up.Nobody in Foreman's prime out boxed him.If Foreman was really that bad of a boxer with horrible stamina wouldn't he of had more than 2 loses in his prime?Wouldn't it have been easy for just anybody to stick and move and tire him out?The only punch Foreman threw wild was the hook but most 6'4 or taller heavyweights throw wild or slow hooks.Lewis,Ali and Holmes didn't really have good hooks either.Infact all of their best punches were the right hand or uppercut just like Foreman.
I can't picture any way Baer could even go 2 rounds would Foreman never mind winning.

[king4fore]

Here would be a better post topic.Could just one time somebody makes a post and have a clue to what they are talking about?Baer isn't any where near as skilled as Foreman.Look at the 2 fighters too beat a prime Foreman and then look at the first 2 guys to beat Baer.Over 20 men went the distance with Baer while only 8 of Foremans wins wern't by knockout which ment Foreman was alot harder puncher not to mention fighters in Baer's time wore smaller gloves and Foreman fought tougher opponents.
The fight would be similar too Foreman Lyle?Really why would you even think this?Baer was knocked out many times in his career punchers who had less pop than Foreman.Joe Louis who was probably the best fighter Baer fought beat him with ease.Louis himself is overrated fighting bum after bum after bum only fighter 2 black men in his whole career and neither of them would be considered heavweights today.
Foreman also had one of the best chins in boxing history.Don't use the Lyle fight to show he could be down.Lyle could **** no doubt about it but do you really think Lyle punched harder than lets say Shannon Briggs who Foreman fought 20 years later?Briggs landed some bombs but they had no effect so he ran.Foreman was knocked down by Lyle probably because he was rusty and his ego had been destroyed by losing to Ali.
The myth about Foreman being a poor boxer always cracks me up.Nobody in Foreman's prime out boxed him.If Foreman was really that bad of a boxer with horrible stamina wouldn't he of had more than 2 loses in his prime?Wouldn't it have been easy for just anybody to stick and move and tire him out?The only punch Foreman threw wild was the hook but most 6'4 or taller heavyweights throw wild or slow hooks.Lewis,Ali and Holmes didn't really have good hooks either.Infact all of their best punches were the right hand or uppercut just like Foreman.
I can't picture any way Baer could even go 2 rounds would Foreman never mind winning.

first let me correct you. joe louis fought three black men. and you talk about baer's losses, i must point out all of his losses happened after he killed a guy in the ring. he holds wins over max schemling jack sharkey and primo carnera all world champions.

[Kid Achilles]

Don't waste your time with this Foreman clown. He is Tommhearns804 back for more abuse. One of the least knowledgeable posters on this forum.

[sleazyfellow]

Joe Louis who was probably the best fighter Baer fought beat him with ease.Louis himself is overrated fighting bum after bum after bum only fighter 2 black men in his whole career and neither of them would be considered heavweights today.

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[MickyHatton]

Anyone who says they know for a fact that Foreman hit harder than Baer is a fool. Both guys were tops in the punching power department. Taking a punch from either was like getting hit by a mack truck. Both were very similar in size and frame (Baer was about 6' 2 1/2" and Foreman a little over 6'3", Foreman heavier but IMO slightly softer than the chiseled Baer), so to give Foreman any kind of edge is just bias.

I'm not saying that I know if one guy hit harder than the other but anyone who says that he knows without a shred of a doubt that Foreman hit harder than Baer is just talking out of his ass.

A fight between the two would be an exciting slugfest, with Baer's superior stamina and IMO edge in the chin department would be significant factors as well as Foreman's power in both hands and his jab.

I think it's a pick 'em fight. Could go either way.

Spot on, both were not blessed with boxing skills but were ferocious punchers and fighters, toss of a coin IMO!

[Southpaw Stinger]

He is Tommhearns804 back for more abuse. One of the least knowledgeable posters on this forum.

In a way I've missed the guy. I'm waiting for another hilarious Marciano post!

[Heckler]

When you analyze the two you just have to give the edge to Foreman. From what ive seen i believe foreman was even more skilled, he had a sledge hammer jab he used to great effect, he was no Joe Frazier but he was definately a good body puncher and most importantly he had power in both hands. From what i've seen in film and from the general concensus among boxing historians ive concluded that George Foreman is physically stronger then Baer and thus would be more sucessful in manipulating Baer around the ring than Baer would Foreman. It's definately no blowout and im not CERTAIN Foreman would take out Baer... but it's likely IMO.

[butterfly1964]

Number one Baer wasn't no 220. At the most he was 208-210. Foreman was a lot bigger, stronger, more skilled, a better two fisted puncher, and a better chin. Foreman in about one or two rounds, period.

[Kid Achilles]

Number one Baer wasn't no 220. At the most he was 208-210. Foreman was a lot bigger, stronger, more skilled, a better two fisted puncher, and a better chin. Foreman in about one or two rounds, period.

No one is gonna knock Baer out in two rounds. If anyone is KO'ed within two rounds, it's Foreman who has the shakier chin. Louis was a much better puncher than Lyle and hit Baer with much more punishment than Foreman received at the hands of Lyle, yet Baer was never knocked out in that fight- he let himself get counted out.

Physically Baer is much bigger and more impressive than you are making him out to be. Baer had a huge head and some of the widest shoulders I've seen on a man 6'3" or under. He had a monstrous frame with a nearly 48" chest (Foreman's was 44 1/2" for comparison). Basically his body was as big or bigger than Foreman's, and his skull was significantly bigger than Big George's.

Baer at 220 was a lean as Foreman was at that weight. His upperbody was huge, with wider shoulders than Foreman, though his arms and legs were slimmer. Basically he was built for endurance and getting tremendous leverage into his shots a la Bob Fitzsimmons. His technique and body mechanics weren't great (though better than Foreman's I'd say) but he was a freak of nature when it came to punching power, just like Foreman. He was very, very strong and heavy handed.

Why does Baer look sort of skinny in those old pictures? Because his noggin was friggin' huge. Watch the fight with Joe Louis who was a large man with a big head and yet he is utterly dwarfed by Baer. When your head is that big, every other part of you seems smaller in comparison.

Baer was a physical marvel, a punching power prodigy, who IMO combined hitting power and durability (chin, stamina, and ability to take it to the body) better than any other fighter I've seen.

I wouldn't bet on Baer to beat anyone (he lost to Braddock after all, whom he held every conceivable advantage over) but I would never bet against Baer. He was that kind of fighter.

[Southpaw Stinger]

No one is gonna knock Baer out in two rounds. If anyone is KO'ed within two rounds, it's Foreman who has the shakier chin.

How can you say Foreman has the Shakier chin when he was only stopped once in somthing like 81 fights - and that was by exhaustion. It was Baer who was stopped by smaller guys on more than one occasion. So it's not right saying Foreman has the weaker chin.
And back then they used very thin gloves so of course his rights gonna be hard. Put 8 or 10 oz gloves on him and see if he can go toe to toe with Foreman. Better yet put small gloves on Foreman and then we'll see someone get killed in the ring...