I read in Bert Sugars book 'The 100 greatest fighters ever' that Sonny Listons fists were bigger than Carnera's and Willard's.Holy ****!I knew he had huge hands,but damn!Combine that with his unnatural reach,and this man was a machine.Anyways,im sure a lot of you already knew this.Just thought I would throw it out there.
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Originally posted by Mass PrideI read in Bert Sugars book 'The 100 greatest fighters ever' that Sonny Listons fists were bigger than Carnera's and Willard's.Holy ****!I knew he had huge hands,but damn!Combine that with his unnatural reach,and this man was a machine.Anyways,im sure a lot of you already knew this.Just thought I would throw it out there.
Ali, Holmes, Norton and Frazier have had their fists were measured anywhere between 12 1/2 to 13 1/2 inches.Last edited by SABBATH; 06-28-2006, 10:15 AM.
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Originally posted by SABBATHListon's fists were measured at 15 inches. That measurement is across the knuckles and palm (held in place by the fingers making the fist. It is said an ordinary man's fist is about 7-8 inches which I think is a bit low.
Ali, Holmes, Norton and Frazier have had their fists were measured anywhere between 12 1/2 to 13 1/2 inches.
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Marciano's were 11 1/2.
The Heavyweight Champions of the World Tale Of
The TapeJohn L.
SullivanJames J.
CorbettBob
FitzsimmonsJim
JeffriesHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
5-10½
196
74
43
48
36
16¼
18
8
16
9
24
14
13
6-1
178
73
38
42
33
14½
17
6½
14½
8¼
21
12¾
11½
71¾
167
71¾
41
44
32
12
15
7½
13½
8¼
21
12½
11½
6-2½
206
76½
43
48½
35
16
18¼
7¾
17
10
25
13½
13½
Tale Of
The TapeMarvin
HartTommy
BurnsJack
JohnsonJess
WillardHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
5-11½
195
74
45
47½
35
15½
18¼
8
17¼
9
25
14
14
5-7
180
74½
40
43¾
33
14½
16
7¼
16½
8¼
22
12
13
6-1¼
192
74
37½
42¾
36
16
17½
10½
15
9½
22½
14
14½
6-6¼
230
83
46
49½
35½
17½
17½
10
17½
10½
26
14
14
Tale Of
The TapeJack
DempseyGene
TunneyMax
SchmelingJack
SharkeyHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-0¾
187
77
42
46
33
16¼
16½
9
15
9
23
11¼
14½
6-0½
189½
77
42
45
34½
14½
17
9
15½
9
22
11¼
13½
6-1
188
76
43
47
33¼
16
17½
8
16
10
23½
12
12¾
6-0
205
74½
40½
45½
34½
14½
17
7¾
16
10¼
24¾
12¾
15¾
Tale Of
The TapePrimo
CarneraMax
BaerJimmy
BraddockJoe
LouisHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-5¾
260
85½
48
54
38
18½
20
9½
20
11½
30½
14¾
16
6-2½
209½
81
44
47½
32½
14½
17½
8
15
9½
21
12
14
6-2½
193
75
41
44
34½
13
17
8
16
10
22¾
11½
12½
6-1½
197
76
42
45
36½
15
17
8
14
10
22½
11¾
12
Tale Of
The TapeEzzard
CharlesJersey Joe
WalcottRocky
MarcianoFloyd
PattersonHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-0
181¾
74
39
42
33
15½
16½
7
13
8½
20
12
12
6-0
194
74
40
43
35
16
17
7¾
14
9¾
21
12
13
5-10¼
184
68
39
42
32
14
16¾
7½
14¾
10
22
11½
12
6-0
182¾
71
40
42
32½
14¼
17
6
15½
9½
21½
12¾
12
Tale Of
The TapeIngemar
JohanssonSonny
ListonMuhammad
AliJoe
FrazierHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-0½
196
72½
43
45
34
16½
17
7
16
10
24
13½
15
6-1
214
84
44
46½
33
16½
17½
8½
16
12
25½
15
14½
6-3
210½
82
43
45½
34
15½
17½
8
17
10
25
12½
15
5-11½
205
73½
42
44
34
15
17½
7
13
11
26
13
13
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Originally posted by SABBATHMarciano's were 11 1/2.
The Heavyweight Champions of the World Tale Of
The TapeJohn L.
SullivanJames J.
CorbettBob
FitzsimmonsJim
JeffriesHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
5-10½
196
74
43
48
36
16¼
18
8
16
9
24
14
13
6-1
178
73
38
42
33
14½
17
6½
14½
8¼
21
12¾
11½
71¾
167
71¾
41
44
32
12
15
7½
13½
8¼
21
12½
11½
6-2½
206
76½
43
48½
35
16
18¼
7¾
17
10
25
13½
13½
Tale Of
The TapeMarvin
HartTommy
BurnsJack
JohnsonJess
WillardHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
5-11½
195
74
45
47½
35
15½
18¼
8
17¼
9
25
14
14
5-7
180
74½
40
43¾
33
14½
16
7¼
16½
8¼
22
12
13
6-1¼
192
74
37½
42¾
36
16
17½
10½
15
9½
22½
14
14½
6-6¼
230
83
46
49½
35½
17½
17½
10
17½
10½
26
14
14
Tale Of
The TapeJack
DempseyGene
TunneyMax
SchmelingJack
SharkeyHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-0¾
187
77
42
46
33
16¼
16½
9
15
9
23
11¼
14½
6-0½
189½
77
42
45
34½
14½
17
9
15½
9
22
11¼
13½
6-1
188
76
43
47
33¼
16
17½
8
16
10
23½
12
12¾
6-0
205
74½
40½
45½
34½
14½
17
7¾
16
10¼
24¾
12¾
15¾
Tale Of
The TapePrimo
CarneraMax
BaerJimmy
BraddockJoe
LouisHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-5¾
260
85½
48
54
38
18½
20
9½
20
11½
30½
14¾
16
6-2½
209½
81
44
47½
32½
14½
17½
8
15
9½
21
12
14
6-2½
193
75
41
44
34½
13
17
8
16
10
22¾
11½
12½
6-1½
197
76
42
45
36½
15
17
8
14
10
22½
11¾
12
Tale Of
The TapeEzzard
CharlesJersey Joe
WalcottRocky
MarcianoFloyd
PattersonHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-0
181¾
74
39
42
33
15½
16½
7
13
8½
20
12
12
6-0
194
74
40
43
35
16
17
7¾
14
9¾
21
12
13
5-10¼
184
68
39
42
32
14
16¾
7½
14¾
10
22
11½
12
6-0
182¾
71
40
42
32½
14¼
17
6
15½
9½
21½
12¾
12
Tale Of
The TapeIngemar
JohanssonSonny
ListonMuhammad
AliJoe
FrazierHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-0½
196
72½
43
45
34
16½
17
7
16
10
24
13½
15
6-1
214
84
44
46½
33
16½
17½
8½
16
12
25½
15
14½
6-3
210½
82
43
45½
34
15½
17½
8
17
10
25
12½
15
5-11½
205
73½
42
44
34
15
17½
7
13
11
26
13
13
goddamn...he was a small dude compared to the HW's also...he was throwing 'clubs'
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Tale Of
The TapeGeorge
ForemanLeon
SpinksKen
NortonLarry
HolmesHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-3
217¾
82
42
44½
34
15
17
7½
17
9½
25
12
13½
6-2
196
76
40½
42
32¼
15½
17
7
15½
9½
24
12½
12
6-3
215½
80
45
48
33
16
18
8
15½
10
25
13
13
6-3½
209
80
43½
45½
35
15¾
17½
8
16
10
25
13½
13
Tale Of
The TapeJohn
TateMike
WeaverMichael
DokesGerrie
CoetzeeHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-4
240
80
42
44
36
16
17½
7½
17
10
26
13
13
6-1
207
78½
44½
46½
32
17
18
8
16
10½
24
13½
13½
6-3
216
78
44
46
34
17
17½
7½
15
11
25
12½
13
6-2½
215
81
43
46½
34½
16
18
8
17¾
11½
25
13
13½
Tale Of
The TapeTim
WitherspoonPinklon
ThomasGreg
PageTony
TubbsHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-3
220¼
77
43
45
36
17
17½
9
16½
9
25½
12
14
6-3
216
76½
42
44
32½
15
17
8
17
10
24½
12½
12½
6-3
236
80
45
46½
35
16½
17½
8½
16
10½
24
13½
13
6-3
230
81
40
42
38
14
17
8
16
10
26
12
13
Tale Of
The TapeMichael
SpinksTrevor
BerbickMike
TysonBonecrusher
SmithHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-2½
200
76
38
40
32
13½
15½
7½
16
11
22
13
12
6-2½
215
78
42
44
37
15
17
7½
15½
10
24
13
12½
5-11½
218
71
43
45
34
16
19¾
8
18
11
27
13
14
6-4
230
82
42½
44
38
18
18
9
16
9
29
13¾
14
Tale Of
The TapeTony
TuckerBuster
DouglasEvander
HolyfieldRid****
BoweHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-5
225
81½
42
45½
34
16½
17½
8
16½
10
22½
13¼
13½
6-4
231
84
43
44½
36
18
17
8
16½
10½
27
13
14
6-2
215
77½
43
45
32
16
19½
7½
13
10
22
12½
12½
6-5
230
81
46
50
36
15
17½
8
16½
11
26½
13½
17
Tale Of
The TapeLennox
LewisMichael
MoorerOliver
McCallGeorge
ForemanHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-5
245
84
44
46
34
17
18½
8
18
11
26
12
15
6-2
225
78
42½
44
34
17
20
8
17
10
26½
12
14
6-2
231
79
46
48
34
17½
17
10
19
9
26
14
14
6-4
250
79
48
50
39½
20
20
12
20
13
28
13½
14¾
Tale Of
The TapeBruce
SeldonFrank
BrunoHeight
Weight
Reach
Chest/Norm.
Chest/Exp.
Waist
Biceps
Neck
Wrist
Calf
Ankle
Thigh
Fist
Forearm
6-1
233
71
43
45
34
16
19¾
8
18
11
27
13
14
6-3
230
82
48
50
34
17
18
9
17
10
24
14
14
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****in hell. No wonder he had such a devastating punch with all that area hitting his opponents face!
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Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey and Marciano were among three of the hardest punchers who also happened to have three of the smallest fists (along with Braddock and Tunney they are the only champions under 12 inches).
Marciano was just small all around compared to other champions. Height, reach, fist, neck, chest, biceps, thighs etc....while Marciano's 32 inch waist ( the first place most men store fat) is the same as much bigger guys like Mike Weaver, Pinklon Thomas, and Evander Holyfield to name just a few.
Marciano was clearly a cruiserweight by today's standards.Last edited by SABBATH; 06-28-2006, 01:02 PM.
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