Miscellaneous Boxing Factoids

[The Old LefHook]

Factoid: They had to release Rubin Hurricane Carter because they found out he was innocent.

Fact: He was released because of procedural errors during his trial.

Fact or Factoid? Carter was innocent. Only Carter knew for sure. There are those who point both ways for his guilt or innocence. Any evidence can be slanted with clever verbiage. Carter sounds pretty guilty in some of the stuff I have read. But I have also read probability questions and studies that would make you scratch your head with wonder at some of the things you would swear from the evidence presented were almost certainties, but which have amazingly small chances of being true. At least the chances are small enough that you would be quite hesitant on such evidence alone to send someone to the death chamber. I will try to find some of those studies. With a little tweaking we might even be able to retool them for boxing use.

[The Old LefHook]

There was supposed to be interest on one's points granted at eleven o'clock today. I notice my points are exactly the same as they were when I went to bed this morning. This will make three out of the last four interest awards they have screwed me out of.

[OCPancho]

The Thrilla in Manila was not fought in the city of Manila.
It was held in Quezon City. Ali and Frazier fought around Sunday noon , Manila time.
Future world champions Larry Holmes and Rolando Navarrete fought that MORNING in the undercard.

[The Old LefHook]

https://www.policija.si/eng/images/s...lProcedure.pdf

His is a link to some criminal law probabilities. The case of People vs Collins beginning on page 4 of the text or on page 331 of the text excerpted from by the text, is a good example of probabilistic reasoning innocently gone awry. Mistakes in theory are very common in probability. Some of the details are eerily familiar from the case of Carter, who happened to be driving a new, white Cadillac which I believe was also a convertible.

[Rockin']

Factoid: Punch drunkenness only came about after boxers started using mitts.

purely coincidence......Rockin'

[Dempsey-Louis]

Factoid: They had to release Rubin Hurricane Carter because they found out he was innocent.

Fact: He was released because of procedural errors during his trial.

Fact or Factoid? Carter was innocent. Only Carter knew for sure. There are those who point both ways for his guilt or innocence. Any evidence can be slanted with clever verbiage. Carter sounds pretty guilty in some of the stuff I have read. But I have also read probability questions and studies that would make you scratch your head with wonder at some of the things you would swear from the evidence presented were almost certainties, but which have amazingly small chances of being true. At least the chances are small enough that you would be quite hesitant on such evidence alone to send someone to the death chamber. I will try to find some of those studies. With a little tweaking we might even be able to retool them for boxing use.

John Artis knows.

[The Old LefHook]

Good point.

[The Old LefHook]

The site in the link has a wealth of information on the case. Pretty much the whole movie was factoid. I know that Giardello did win his libel case against the movie. I will watch the fight yet again, since I remember thinking Carter won, then revising that opinion after re-watching it several years back.


http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/..._mulshine.html

[Bundana]

Factoid: In the 1920 Olympics in Antwerp, future light heavyweight champion Paul Berlenbach won Olympic gold as a wrestler.

Fact: Berlenbach never competed in the 1920 (or any other) Olympic Games.

[Dempsey-Louis]

Primo Carnera was a hapless giant who couldn't box and always stumbled around the ring.