Thoughts on Frankie Randall?

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  • embryo
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    Thoughts on Frankie Randall?

    I've recently watched his 3 fights with Chavez....first 2 were awesome fights. Never really knew what happened to Randall or how he is remembered in boxing history. Was his win over Chavez in the first fight a fluke against a coked out, self destructive Chavez (similar to what happens to many all time greats, they end up self destructing while at the top, like Tyson, etc)? Did he just have the blueprint laid out by Whitaker on how to beat Chavez or was Randall really that good? Or a combination of Chavez not training and Randall also being in the fight of his life, coming prepared, and having that Whitaker fight to learn from? And any opinions on Randall overall? I am interested in checking out his career and his best fights.
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    Honestly a great question and one worth checking out. I've got no real information to help you, but going (3-13, 10 KO'd) over the last 6 years of his career didn't help much.
    [He retires with the Oba Carr fight and he ends things 55-6-1, a three-time challenger and two-time world champion at 140lbs, with the feather of having been the man to beat an aging but undefeated Julio Cesar Chavez.

    A respectable career run that should draw some note in his hometown, but it'd be a stretch to expect more than that]

    Good luck with the search

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    • STREET CLEANER
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      Randall was a coke head himself and had cleaned himself for the Chavez fight. That was no fluke, he just had his number. On the second fight he was doing even better until the cut happened and some home cooking. He would fight Chavez down the road but the drugs caught up to him once more.

      In their first encounter they were fighting their asses off. Chavez looked the same he always did. Frankie had a plan, speed and power.

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      • Ray Corso
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        #4
        You just watched him don't you know if he's good or not?

        At 140 he was competitive.

        Ray

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          #5
          I remember Randall from the early days looking good in the ESPN tournament . Soon after that he face Edwin Rosario. Rosario was too much at that stage for the young lion. Seen his early loss to slugger Primo Ramos as well. Randall was on tv a lot.
          Randall was a fine boxer with good power. Unfortunately, as mentioned he battled with drugs. He definitely had Chavez's number and showed his class against Juan M. Coggi as well. After that I believe his past caught with him as it does with most boxers who don't live clean.

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            Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
            Randall was a coke head himself and had cleaned himself for the Chavez fight. That was no fluke, he just had his number. On the second fight he was doing even better until the cut happened and some home cooking. He would fight Chavez down the road but the drugs caught up to him once more.

            In their first encounter they were fighting their asses off. Chavez looked the same he always did. Frankie had a plan, speed and power.
            The trilogy fight they had during Chavez's retirement tour was a complete joke.

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            • STREET CLEANER
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              #7
              Originally posted by OctoberRed
              The trilogy fight they had during Chavez's retirement tour was a complete joke.
              It was. Sad that those two guys had to keep fighting to make some money.

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                He took it to Chavez, beat him up, and hurt him in a way I don't recall too many others ever doing.

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                  Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                  It was. Sad that those two guys had to keep fighting to make some money.
                  They looked so old and so slow, it was like my grandfather boxing his brother.

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