Originally posted by Dempsey-Louis
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Why did WBC reduce title fights to 12 rounds ?
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Both concerns were valid and remain so today. The 36 minutes with 12 plus the one minute rest allows all the intros and after bout interviews to get done 25 minutes sooner than a 15 round bout. However the concerns over the "championship rounds" was very real. You seldom saw a lackadaisical championship fight when the duration was at 15! They fought hard throughout and the fatigued fighter could be in jeopardy as the late rounds were completing.
If you don't think a fatality on a network show could cause serious set backs for future programming you don't know much about network programming.
I don't mind the 12 rounds today but every bout is 12 even when theres no title involved. If your on TV it's 12!!!!
The fighters today all most always pace themselves in todays boxing.
Look at Broner coasting the first 5 rounds of his last bout and it cost him the win. All most all of them do it!!!!!
Ray
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostBoth concerns were valid and remain so today. The 36 minutes with 12 plus the one minute rest allows all the intros and after bout interviews to get done 25 minutes sooner than a 15 round bout. However the concerns over the "championship rounds" was very real. You seldom saw a lackadaisical championship fight when the duration was at 15! They fought hard throughout and the fatigued fighter could be in jeopardy as the late rounds were completing.
If you don't think a fatality on a network show could cause serious set backs for future programming you don't know much about network programming.
I don't mind the 12 rounds today but every bout is 12 even when theres no title involved. If your on TV it's 12!!!!
The fighters today all most always pace themselves in todays boxing.
Look at Broner coasting the first 5 rounds of his last bout and it cost him the win. All most all of them do it!!!!!
Ray
But I would like to point out that television suffered the Paret-Griffith fight and didn't change its behavior.
The Paret-Griffith fight was visually far more brutal (at the moment) than the Mancini-Kim fight. We really didn't experience any visual trauma occurring during the Mancini fight, it wasn't until a day later that it became a tragedy.
IMO if TV could ignore Paret-Griffith and go on unchanged, it certainly could have ignore Mancini-Kim had it wanted to.
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That bout was a "local" northeast televised broadcast. It was not a national showcase.
The viewing number between those broadcast was extremely different. A nationally televised show sponsored by a major broadcaster compared to the Gillette Cavalcade show is night and day.
Ray
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Originally posted by Dempsey-Louis View PostI don't want to sound like I am dismissing your remark because I agree with most of it.
But I would like to point out that television suffered the Paret-Griffith fight and didn't change its behavior.
The Paret-Griffith fight was visually far more brutal (at the moment) than the Mancini-Kim fight. We really didn't experience any visual trauma occurring during the Mancini fight, it wasn't until a day later that it became a tragedy.
IMO if TV could ignore Paret-Griffith and go on unchanged, it certainly could have ignore Mancini-Kim had it wanted to.
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostBoth concerns were valid and remain so today. The 36 minutes with 12 plus the one minute rest allows all the intros and after bout interviews to get done 25 minutes sooner than a 15 round bout. However the concerns over the "championship rounds" was very real. You seldom saw a lackadaisical championship fight when the duration was at 15! They fought hard throughout and the fatigued fighter could be in jeopardy as the late rounds were completing.
If you don't think a fatality on a network show could cause serious set backs for future programming you don't know much about network programming.
I don't mind the 12 rounds today but every bout is 12 even when theres no title involved. If your on TV it's 12!!!!
The fighters today all most always pace themselves in todays boxing.
Look at Broner coasting the first 5 rounds of his last bout and it cost him the win. All most all of them do it!!!!!
Ray
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Originally posted by lightningleeroy View PostSlightly off topic but am i right in thinking that the paret-griffith outcome is why we now have 4 ropes instead of 3?
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostThat bout was a "local" northeast televised broadcast. It was not a national showcase.
The viewing number between those broadcast was extremely different. A nationally televised show sponsored by a major broadcaster compared to the Gillette Cavalcade show is night and day.
Ray
And are you sure that 1950s network broadcasts were only regionalized? I am sure the entire nation was watching The Honeymooners and Uncle Millty. The Cavalcade (on NBC) also carried events like the Rose Bowl and the Kentucky Derby, which we know went nationwide. I would be surprised to find that NBC's shows were only shown regionally, that denies the term "network,' but maybe.
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostThat bout was a "local" northeast televised broadcast. It was not a national showcase.
The viewing number between those broadcast was extremely different. A nationally televised show sponsored by a major broadcaster compared to the Gillette Cavalcade show is night and day.
Ray
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