Boxing promoters should form a pact to recognise one organisation belt.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Some promoter should have had the balls and broken away and had their own belts..
Pbc I thought was going to do that..

Perception is reality.. casuals and even some moderate hardcore fans can't keep up with all the interm, regular, super, titles plus all the different organizations.. their is literally a dozen belts per division.

Pbc should have done a weekly show, on one channel, same time every week. Use their own belts, and don't have bogus catchweights, make the champ consistently defend vs legit contenders much like how they do in UFC n bellator

Pre pbc, I thought arum n gbp should have combined and do the same thing

[New England]

sanctioning bodies actually help network ratings and to sell tickets.

it's a heck of a lot easier to promote a "world title" fight to casuals at a casino.


fighters like them, too. they cost money, btu they also generate a ton of revenue, and FFS these guys get to live their dreams of winning the red belt, or the green belt, or the black belt. it's important to them! but seriosuly, ifghters do like the sanctioning bodies. that's one of the ways they get on TV and make more money, by being able to call themselves "world champion." most of the people in the stands don't even know what the WBC or the WBA are.

[Humean]

Eddie Hearn, Bob Arum, Mayweather, Haymon, Frank Warren, Di Bella, K2, Main Events and Ringstar sports, should sign a pact that they will only recognise for example the WBC World Title belt.

In return, the WBC must sign an agreement that they will include all fighters in their rankings.

In order to make this work, the WBC would need to order certain fights straight away ,ranking the current champions in the other organisations from 2-4. They must also scrap their Diamond, Emeritus and Silver Titles.

For example, they must order Manny Pacquiao vs Brook/Spence for the WBC interim World Championship.
The winner of this fight, must fight the winner of Thurman v Garcia.

They must order Golovkin/Jacobs to fight Billy Joe Saunders etc.

Thoughts?

So German, Japanese, Mexican etc boxing doesn't count? The reason for the multiple belts and the expansion of the weight classes was to help develop and market boxing in different markets.

The promoters really don't have much incentive to make such a pact as each promoter's existence depends upon their respective tv network deals and each tv network wants world title fights more than anything else.

Also one champion per division is not very practical when the economics make it viable to only fight 1-4 fights per year. So even if the leading promoters were to only work with the one sanctioning body they would likely end up demanding multiple versions of the world title through that single organization - although that might actually be better than the current set up but you'll probably have to wait for the other sanctioning bodies to go bankrupt before something like that can happen.

When you consider the various interests in boxing: fighters, trainers, managers, promoters, tv networks and sanctioning bodies it is usually the promoters and the sanctioning bodies that are least to blame for the best fights not happening.

[ShoulderRoll]

Having only one champion per division would make it special and quite an accomplishment to be a world champion.

But by having multiple belts that means guys like Jurgen Braehmer and Tyron Zeuge can pretend to be champions and then leverage that to make money in their home countries.

[Humean]

Having only one champion per division would make it special and quite an accomplishment to be a world champion.

But by having multiple belts that means guys like Jurgen Braehmer and Tyron Zeuge can pretend to be champions and then leverage that to make money in their home countries.

Also guys like Deontay Wilder, Jermell Charlo, Robert Easter Jr, Gervonta Davis etc.

[ShoulderRoll]

Also guys like Deontay Wilder, Jermell Charlo, Robert Easter Jr, Gervonta Davis etc.

Deontay Wilder for sure.

Those others are actually skillful fighters, though. If there were only one champ per division they are good enough that they might be that champ.

[Humean]

Deontay Wilder for sure.

Those others are actually skillful fighters, though. If there were only one champ per division they are good enough that they might be that champ.

They are all good but none of them are number one in their division at present, they are making money in their own country as world champions in the same way as Zeuge and Braehmer are/have been in Germany.

[ShoulderRoll]

There's no way that Zeuge or Braehmer are the class of their divisions.

The others can at least make a reasonable argument that if there was only one world champion per weight class they would be in the running for the top spot.

[Humean]

There's no way that Zeuge or Braehmer are the class of their divisions.

The others can at least make a reasonable argument that if there was only one world champion per weight class they would be in the running for the top spot.

No they are not but it is no different from the rest. Gervonta Davis is very talented but he isn't #1 at 130, either Lomachenko or Jezreel Corrales is. Therefore Gervonta Davis is earning a living as a world champion in his own country when he wouldn't be able to if there was only one champion. So it is not just German tv networks who benefit from the current arrangements, also the various US networks (and everyone else).

[ShoulderRoll]

I would rank Lomachenko #1 at 130. But Tank Davis is quite gifted and would be in with a shout, I think he could give him a close fight and there's an outside shot he might even win.

Braehmer or Zeuge can't really say the same.

So while all of them make money thanks to multiple belts they are not equivalent in my opinion. Different levels.