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  • ROSEWOOD
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    #91
    Originally posted by mokele
    What some people will do to tarnish the reputation of fighters! Some of what he says is true, but the simple fact is that Joe Louis beat all the best heavyweights in the world during his era. Perhaps other than Louis himself, that era was not particularly strong but even that notion is debatable. Look carefully at the guys that Larry Holmes beat while he was champion, and although most had fewer losses than Joe Louis's opponents, they had a lot more losses by the time their careers were over. A bunch of Holmes' opponents were put in against Larry while they were still young, on the rise and maybe not at their peak.

    It's a long story, but the simple truth is that Joe Louis beat everyone that was put in front of him, and usually decisively. To my knowledge Louis ducked nobody. I've never heard anyone ask questions such as "why didn't Joe Louis fight so-and-so".

    It's the same old story. If you work hard enough you can take any fighter's reputation down a peg with carefully selected anecdotes.
    WHAT??????????? KILL HIM!!!!!!!!!!

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    • BAREKNUCKLES
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      #92
      Many fighters from by-gone eras are often dismissed as over rated. Alot of it has to do with the fact that most of us were either swimming around in our dad's testicles or in our grandma and grandpa's DNA.

      Anyone on here old enough to have watched Joe Louis actually fight would have to be at least 60 years old. There was no television in the 40's. Louis was finished as a fighter in the television era.

      If you watch taped footage of him, it's jacked up to compare those old films to today's tv footage. You can't really tell anything about a fighter from those old films. They all look like Charlie Chaplan.

      Furthermore, all of the guys Louis fought are now fossil fuels too, so what do we really know about Joe Louis?

      We know that he was the best in his day, and I believe he held the crown longer than anyone else, even to this day. He was a great American and a credit to the sport.

      From a boxing standpoint, he had murderous power, he had great size, and was technically very sound and a good chin.

      I've always put Ali ahead of Louis, but he's an all time top 3 heavy no matter how you slice it.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #93
        Originally posted by BKM-
        That person deserves to be shot for writing that, even if its a joke.
        - -Used to be quite the spitball Sharpshooter in my day, so I volunteer to promise a fun time.

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        • Scopedog
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          #94
          Fourteen years.

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          • cfang
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            #95
            There were 5 champs active when louis came along. Thats undisputed champs btw. Louis beat all of them. Then made 26 defences over a decade. Without the war hed have made 40.

            Louis was a brilliant technical boxer. Subtleties missed in the poster

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #96
              Originally posted by cfang
              There were 5 champs active when louis came along. Thats undisputed champs btw. Louis beat all of them. Then made 26 defences over a decade. Without the war hed have made 40.

              Louis was a brilliant technical boxer. Subtleties missed in the poster
              - -Agree in principle, but without ww2, he'd never mentor the Robinson twins, Jackie and Ray, bailing them out after their insubordinations.

              And Truman would've never consulted him on integrating the military, all worth way more than an additional 14 defenses.

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              • just the facts
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                #97
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                - -Used to be quite the spitball Sharpshooter in my day, so I volunteer to promise a fun time.
                Digging up ancient threads again?

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