Where does Evander Holyfield rank among all time great Heavyweights?

[HOUDINI563]

My all time top ten does not include Holy although I loved watching him fight and he certainly was a great hwt:

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Lewis
Foreman
Johnson
Tyson
Dempsey
Tunney
Marciano

[mikeg1224]

Houdini563,

I agree. I just can't rate Evander as a Top 10 considering his steroid & HGH use. Moreover, his HW prime was in the 1990s during which he lost 2 0f 3 to Bowe; 2 to Lewis, although he was gifted a draw in the 1st fight; and then went on to 1 W, 1 L and 1 Draw against John Ruiz for Pete's sake!

However, he certainly was in the Top 5 of the dirtiest fighters I've seen with his world-class head butts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8y-dRy5NOM

One final thought about The Real Deal: he earned more than $ 500 Million in his career yet he managed to piss away every penny of it--makes Tyson look like a spendthrift.

[OctoberRed]

My all time top ten does not include Holy although I loved watching him fight and he certainly was a great hwt:

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Lewis
Foreman
Johnson
Tyson
Dempsey
Tunney
Marciano

Would you rate him in the top 10 at cruiser?