Frazier/Holyfield: Who Wins?

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  • hemichromis
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    #31
    Originally posted by The_One77
    Holyfield could deal with Tyson inside, so he can also deal with Frazier
    tyson was faster with slightly more power but frasier was alot smarter and he wasn;t discouraged when someone took the fight to him, in fact he came back harder

    tyson and frasier are both swarmers but are different in many ways

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    • K-DOGG
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      #32
      Originally posted by hemichromis
      tyson was faster with slightly more power but frasier was alot smarter and he wasn;t discouraged when someone took the fight to him, in fact he came back harder

      tyson and frasier are both swarmers but are different in many ways
      Honestly, I wouldn't call Tyson a swarmer. He was more of a "technical-slugger", to coin a phrase.

      He had the perpetual motion thing down as part of his defense and attack; but he wasn't about constant pressure in the same sense as Frazier. Joe kept coming all night and took a few rounds to warm up where Mike started like an explosion; but settled down after the first five rounds...picking his spots to unleash.

      Mike was a fear finder while Joe was more like truth syrum.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #33
        Originally posted by K-DOGG
        The Fans.


        But seriously, I'd have to favour Frazier...but just barely. Frazier would be putting constant pressure on Evander and Holy's instinct to stay and trade and knock him out would come into play...and work against him....see Holyfield-Cooper; and Cooper was a poor man's Frazier.

        Joe by late round stoppage.

        - -Dogg pretty much nails it.

        In Joe's day, he was in with big boys from day one. No failed hvywt cruzer division existed for the pampered.

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          #34
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules
          - -Dogg pretty much nails it.

          In Joe's day, he was in with big boys from day one. No failed hvywt cruzer division existed for the pampered.
          The Frazier dropped by Bonavena ****S Braxton who took Holly the distance.


          Seriously, if Mathis and Quarry couldn't evade Frazier. If Ali got a beating that left him ****ting himself at the same age your dad went out and bought a motorcycle, what hope can you give Holyfield (who wasn't really that ambulatory, and preferred to trading fire to Boxing) to JUST side step. Houdini is re.tarded.

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          • HOUDINI563
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            #35
            Holyfield had the technical skills to overcome a fighter who had poor right hand coordination. Constantly turning away from that hook is a defensive strategy that Holyfield would use. In similar fashion Holmes did the same vs Cooney with good effect.

            In actuality it’s the typical strategy any great boxer would use when fighting a left hooker.

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            • The plunger man
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              #36
              Very tough to pick a winner in this head to head......I would just slightly lean Holyfield because he had better fundamentals , could load up on his shots and was a great combination puncher plus had a really good engine but it would be very close fight

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                #37
                Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                Holyfield had the technical skills to overcome a fighter who had poor right hand coordination. Constantly turning away from that hook is a defensive strategy that Holyfield would use. In similar fashion Holmes did the same vs Cooney with good effect.

                In actuality it’s the typical strategy any great boxer would use when fighting a left hooker.
                Cooney didn't have Frazier's footwork, Holyfield didn't have Holmes' legs.

                The fact that you would make that analogy and reduce diffusing Frazier's offense to something as simple as turning away shows what a ****tard you are. Only that moron Houdini would say something that stu..... oh wait....




                They don't have public transportation where you live? This might be a good time for you to throw yourself in front of a bus.

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                • HOUDINI563
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                  #38
                  Did not state it’s the only strategy. It is however the major strategy a great technical fighter would employ to defeat a left hooker. Boxing 101. Study up fan boy.

                  Frazier’s footwork was not great. Slow legs. He said so himself.

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