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  • #11
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    Boxing has changed for good and bad, mostly good.


    Their is this myth that fighters of the past would fight anyone, any time, and the best fought the best.

    If you are a student of the history of the game, you know better.

    The Mob ran boxing from WWI until the 50s and a lot of good fighters had to throw fights or beat the best and never got a title shot.

    Some even had fights that should have been wins but had one arm band, carried opponents, or if they didnt knock the opponent out it would be a no decision


    I personally think the best are fighting the best more often in our era than the pre 1960....everyone gets world title shots nowadays

    Im not trying to start any commotion, just asking a legitimate question.

    Im not questioning these fighters skills, but their willingness to fight the best


    Ducking is one of the major topics on this forum, and for some instances, us as fans dont have enough inside information to know who really avoided who

    Back in the day fighters were open about why and who they avoided.

    As time goes on, it seems fans care more about how you win, instead of who you beat. Quality>Quantity.......beating good fighters> kayoing no names


    Some of boxings legends avoided the best black fighters of their time and do you guys feel it should affect their legacy?


    Personally I do. How can you be considered the world champion when you didnt fight the best available competition or some of them.


    Do you think drawing the color line should affect the legacies of John L Sullivan, Jack Dempsey, the welterweights champions and middleweights champions who ducked Holman Williams, Eddie Booker and the black murderers row? Jack Lamotta had the cajones to fight everyone, sodid Marciano....Harry Greb was a beast


    People say today this person ducked this person but you'd be hard presssed to find fighters ducking a country or race of fighters
    Through technology and just modern times fighters are forced to fight the better fighters today when at that "TIME" of their career. No one can really skip anyone despite more belts,everyone has to cross paths at some point,weather its both in primes is another question. If you look at all the eras not many prime matches happened. More competition means means better competition its that simple.In the old days there was more lean way/less sanctioning bodies and so forth...today more belts circulate but there are more eyes NOW whos fighting who. I think it evens out due to limited amount of fighters in the past and more today but more spread out....overall today you see better match ups than what maybe should have been in the past which I can reference such as Ali's 60's reighn for the best one. Where he fought guys past prime years later...it wouldn't happen today like that if we had that limited HW fighter line up to make those matches in todays fight game.
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-21-2016, 04:33 AM.

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    • #12
      wow, this actually became a thread

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