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  • #11
    Fitzsimmons

    Bob Fitzsimmons was born too soon. Of course it's hard to take a man outside the time period that he has born into, but just based on pure physical skills he was awesome, a skinny-legged, small-hipped middleweight with the upper body strength and punching power of a heavyweight. He also had the heart of a lion and the patience to match. He might not have had the speed and slick boxing ability of great modern fighters, but he had more than adequate skills for the time period in which he fought. If you took a prime Fitzsimmons and transferred him to modern times there's a strong argument that he would become a middleweight champion, close to the equal of Bernard Hopkins in his prime. I wouldn't go as far as to put him up there with Hagler but some people might consider that quite reasonable.

    Sure Lennox Lewis was a great fighter and Calzaghe and Hatton have impressed the boxing world, but pound for pound Fitzsimmons was perhaps even greater.

    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/fitz.html
    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/Images/fitz1.jpg

    From the article:

    "There is no question that Fitzsimmons had a heavyweights punching power. In 1893, he knocked out seven men in one night and accomplished the feat in under nineteen rounds. All men weighed over 200 pounds. One stood 6-7 and weighed in at 240 pounds according to Carpenter (1964, p 8). The fact that a middleweight could knock out a man the size of Lennox Lewis demonstrates his worth as a hitter. Fitzsimmons actually defeated top heavyweight contenders Peter Maher, Gus Ruhlin and Tom Sharkey all by knockout."

    http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=10552
    Last edited by mokele; 04-17-2006, 05:30 AM. Reason: add stuff

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    • #12
      please refer to my thread in non stop boxing. thanks.

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      • #13
        Yeah, he's very exciting when he's rabbit punching, headbutting or blinding opponents with his dreadlocks.
        I guess the only fight you saw was the McClellan one, as he usually fought quite clean and didnt have dreadlocks.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by supaduck
          I guess the only fight you saw was the McClellan one, as he usually fought quite clean and didnt have dreadlocks.
          Well, he did **** Gerald up with those dirty tactics so i can't like the guy.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Yaman
            Well, he did **** Gerald up with those dirty tactics so i can't like the guy.
            He ****ed up McClellan with about 100 knockout punches, not with any imaginary headbutt or two slight taps to the back of the head. If you bother to watch Benn's first 22 fights, you'll see that he was able to hit harder than anybody.

            McClellan had the best chin I've ever seen, but his chin was too good for his own good.. unfortunately

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JuicyJuice
              He ****ed up McClellan with about 100 knockout punches, not with any imaginary headbutt or two slight taps to the back of the head. If you bother to watch Benn's first 22 fights, you'll see that he was able to hit harder than anybody.

              McClellan had the best chin I've ever seen, but his chin was too good for his own good.. unfortunately
              I don't care how he fought in his other fights, all i know is when he met a lion like Gman in the ring, he was nearly KO'd and had to rabbit punch(And i've seen the fight a lot of times, he did it troughout the fight) headbutt etc. Dirty tactics. Im not saying he was that kind of a fighter, im saying he damaged McClellan for good with that ****.

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              • #17
                Well I ain't gonna disagree with that but anybody else woulda been knocked out, it's just McClellan's solid chin and heart kept him goin. Too bad what happened to him, but I don't blame Benn, **** he even gave an apology on TV and said about how nobody had ever wanted it to happen, etc. Plus props to Nigel for gettin back into the ring after bein knocked out of it.

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                • #18
                  Jimmy Wilde...one of the greatest little guys ever. 131-3 (99) who beat pretty much every fighter around his time and had pretty devastating power for such a small guy.

                  Wasn't he the first real flyweight champ?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by supaduck
                    Well I ain't gonna disagree with that but anybody else woulda been knocked out, it's just McClellan's solid chin and heart kept him goin. Too bad what happened to him, but I don't blame Benn, **** he even gave an apology on TV and said about how nobody had ever wanted it to happen, etc . Plus props to Nigel for gettin back into the ring after bein knocked out of it.

                    He did? Oh thats cool. Didn't expect that since he seemed ****y after he won. I respect Benn though, great fighter, one of the best brits ever for sure.

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                    • #20
                      He was ****y after the fight because he thought G-Man was fine and that the only reason the fight took place was because Don King wanted Benn's name on G-man's record, not to help Benn, and everyone expected G-man to KO him, so it was the highlight of his career.

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