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  • Ben Bolt
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    Acceptance?

    I’ve been a follower of proboxing for 40 years. Fit, young athletes have entertained me for years – I remember a lot of them by name, I’ve also forgot a lot of them and their names.

    Dr. Margaret Goodman, who wrote for The Ring Magazine, stated that at least 50% of proboxers contract premature dementia (and add a lot of unreported cases …)

    What’s my defense to still be involved in a sport that sacrifice healthy, young guys just because I want to be entertained.

    +50% – no other sport would allow it.

    I do have an issue with the downside of boxing these days. Do you?
  • Ivansmamma
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    I boxed a few years when i was younger and yeah i sometimes worried about injuries, i broke my nose, got a cracked rib once but this is really minor stuff compared to what happens to real pro fighters. Amateur boxing is pretty much safe.

    Im glad there is still some place in this safety obsessed society where men can still be men.. everyone involved knows the risks, no one is forced to go into the ring and fight.. It is sad when you see fighters go on to long, or get permanent brain damage but it's also sad to see so many people spending majority of their time in an office, in front of the tv or behind a computer screen, this is a bigger tragedy and a real waste of life.

    I don't really have a problem with justifying the sport. Like any major challenge it gives people a chance to be great and become more then what they are.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #3
      To some degree part of the reason I respect boxers & appreciate boxing is due to the obvious sacrifices participants are making. Part of the glory & drama with boxing is because of the part of themselves boxers sometimes leave in the ring.

      The thing is we all are making sacrifices with our choices & decisions & its mainly about the sacrifices you are willing to make for what you want or how you wanna live your life. I suppose in a better world a sport like boxing doesn't exist. I fully expect it to not exist at some point in the distant future due to the reality of it being one of the harshest sports around.

      But I'm glad it does exist now as I feel like its one of the last remaining places for old school rough men with an ancient warrior oriented now antiquated & potentially soon to be extinct mindset to exist in nowadays.

      TLDR notes: None of us are living in a protective bubble (yet) & no one is being forced to get in the ring.

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      • Ivansmamma
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        #4
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        I suppose in a better world a sport like boxing doesn't exist.
        Yeah i also think some day boxing may likely be banned but this will not be a better world.

        It's in the nature of men to take risks to achive stuff, some do this by fighting... Only a world dominated by women and feminized men will ban this and that will probably be a horrible boring place to live in.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Ivansmamma
          Yeah i also think some day boxing may likely be banned but this will not be a better world.

          It's in the nature of men to take risks to achive stuff, some do this by fighting... Only a world dominated by women and feminized men will ban this and that will probably be a horrible boring place to live in.
          I understand & don't disagree, risks are everywhere in life. You can't live in a bubble of safeness (yet), but when you see Magomed Abdusalamov & Gerald McClellan today it can be a lil harder to demonize a world without the current pro boxing we all know & love. I mean there will always be ways to prove your manliness & competitive advantages without hitting another man in the head, I feel like anyway, but does life changing risks always need to be present in those manly & competitive situations? I'm not so sure they do & with science & technology always advancing I suspect they won't.

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          • Scott9945
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            #6
            Originally posted by Ben Bolt
            I’ve been a follower of proboxing for 40 years. Fit, young athletes have entertained me for years – I remember a lot of them by name, I’ve also forgot a lot of them and their names.

            Dr. Margaret Goodman, who wrote for The Ring Magazine, stated that at least 50% of proboxers contract premature dementia (and add a lot of unreported cases …)

            What’s my defense to still be involved in a sport that sacrifice healthy, young guys just because I want to be entertained.

            +50% – no other sport would allow it.

            I do have an issue with the downside of boxing these days. Do you?
            I've followed pro boxing since I was a child many years ago. I don't know how to not follow it, as being a boxing fan has became part of my life.

            That said, I can't refute anything you've said and as I get older I too become more conscious of it.

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            • Ben Bolt
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              Reading biographies and articles of boxers being struck by it, I’ve learned dementia is a really horrible disease.
              The frightness of being alone at any minute, and every minute in your life being a bewildered one. And you may live with these disorders for years, all days of each year hellish to the one being struck.

              If we take our computers, i-pads or cell phones, we don’t want our expensive ones to undergo some experimentally tests. We want them to carry on as long as possible, protecting them with firewalls, anti-virus systems et cetera.

              We don’t set the same rules to a human boxer’s brain. In the ring, we allow his/hers brain to undergo experimentally tests. Even though we know that the human brain – the most wonderful of computers – is very fragile.

              If every other boxer is at great risk of contracting the disease of dementia, it’s surely something wrong with the sport.

              Originally posted by Ivansmamma
              Im glad there is still some place in this safety obsessed society where men can still be men.
              I believe there are plenty of other arenas to prove that

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              • Ben Bolt
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                #8
                Originally posted by Scott9945
                I've followed pro boxing since I was a child many years ago. I don't know how to not follow it, as being a boxing fan has became part of my life.
                Sadly (to my own conscience), I know what you mean.

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                  #9
                  I'm with you on this.

                  I often ponder the ethics of following this sport, regret supporting it at times.

                  I used to mock boxers I dislike if they got hurt or KO'd but I completely refrain from that now.

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                  • Ben Bolt
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hype job
                    I'm with you on this.

                    I often ponder the ethics of following this sport, regret supporting it at times.

                    I used to mock boxers I dislike if they got hurt or KO'd but I completely refrain from that now.
                    And I'm with you on this.

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