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  • butterfly1964
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    #21
    Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
    hmmm i'm surprised you'd say Rocky Marciano over

    the real mr overhyped



    how can you even incinuate that Marciano's record is overhyped when you got guys like Jack Johnson getting credit for fighting bums and getting beat by Middleweights
    how in the world is jack johnson overhyped? does anybody here besides me and a couple of others place him above marciano? no, so what are you driving at? johnson never lost to a middleweight. he got floored by one but that is it.

    marciano has the most overrated record in hw history. he never lost, but if he was that good then how come he doesn't look better on film? he was very slow, clumsy, and small, so if a guy like that never loses, then you know he didn't fight anybody special.

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      #22
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      how in the world is jack johnson overhyped? does anybody here besides me and a couple of others place him above marciano? no, so what are you driving at? johnson never lost to a middleweight. he got floored by one but that is it.

      marciano has the most overrated record in hw history. he never lost, but if he was that good then how come he doesn't look better on film? he was very slow, clumsy, and small, so if a guy like that never loses, then you know he didn't fight anybody special.

      quit makin fun of ali with that avatar

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        #23
        Originally posted by mystyal2k5
        quit makin fun of ali with that avatar
        what are you talking about?

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          #24
          but if he was that good then how come he doesn't look better on film?

          i think marciano looks very good on film. he has a very unique style, and he made the best of his style.

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            #25
            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            what are you talking about?

            how he's all fat and when the parkinson's was really kickin in your going to ****in hell

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            • SuzieQ49
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              #26
              johnson never lost to a middleweight. he got floored by one but that is it.


              160lb joe choysnki KO 3 jack johnson in 1901

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                #27
                Moving this post to anaother, added to it and dont have enough room. Want to keep it all together.
                Last edited by Hous; 04-15-2006, 08:17 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Hous
                  Oh Jesus, where to start.



                  Didnt fight anyone special? Rocky Marciano has one of the most impressive resumes in any divisions history.

                  -Archie Moore -------------- Recognized as top 5
                  -"Jersey" Joe Walcott twice - One of the top 10
                  -Joe Louis ------------------ Recognized as best boxer in history
                  -Phil Muscato
                  -Freddie Beshore
                  -Harry "Kid" Matthews
                  -Ezzard Charles (Twice)
                  -Roland LaStanza (Twice) --- One of the top five chins in history

                  Its not just that he fought legends, he beat them all, mostly by KO.

                  Rocky Marciano has the highest percentage of KOs than any other boxer in history at 88%. We already came to a conclusion that its more impressive than George Foremans record of his fist 49 fights as Rocky Marciano fought 2X's as many legends and even more iron chins.



                  Rocky Marciano had his own defensive style of boxing, it was sloppy looking, but incredibly successful. It was much harder to land any punch on Marciano as he would duck more throw his body back and jump around than what it would seem. Check out his moves here.

                  The Greatest Heavyweight Champion EVER!
                  My rating: 5 out of 5

                  Comments: Rocky Marciano was an Italian-American boxer who is the greatest Heavyweight champion to ever box, he is the only heavyweight champion to have retire UDEFEATED after FOUR YEARS of holding the title. He fought the best and he beat the best. A huge achievement that noone else has equaled. Heres a famous clip of his knockout of Joe Louis, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofpq9ZVBZ98

                  Still dont believe me? Fine dont take my word, take the word of the Legends that lost to him.





                  asked where Marciano had improved most between the first and second fights:


                  Others




                  Ali said he was surprised at how hard it was to land a hit on Marciano when they had the exhibition, the computer match.
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                  Arguement that Marciano only beat people past their prime.

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                  Seems to me these facts speak louder than anything else. Marcianos age difference is actually lower than all of the other legends when they won their titles.

                  Their was a ten year age difference between Moore and Marciano, significant but not nearly as bad as some of the above, and they are more well known that Marciano.

                  Check this out, Floyd Patterson was 21 years younger than Archie Moore and Archie KOed him by the fifth round. This happened after Marciano KOed Archie Moore.



                  And it took Tyson 12 rounds, in his prime, to win a fight with James Smith by desicion. Tyson was 14 years younger than James Smith


                  If you think winning a desicion over James Smith, who the hell is that, with a 14 year age difference is more impressive than KOing a man 10 years older than you that has gone down in history as one of the finest men in boxing you are the most biased person on these boards.

                  in 1969 Marciano had an exhibition match when at 46 years old with a much younger Muhammad Ali who had was already established himself as the greatest. The 46 year old Marciano beat Ali. You can argue the computer was wrong, we all know computers are unreliable.

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                  I leave you with this,




                  43 KNOCK OUTS in 49 fights!
                  the guy fought bums. did you just say that archie moore had an iron chin?lol moore has a worse chin than any hw champion period. all the people he fought were either bums, glass chins, really old, or small or a combination. marciano was slow. he could not beat people like ali, prime louis, foreman, tyson, or even a guy like jack johnson. marciano has the most overhyped record of all time, and that's a fact.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Hous
                    Oh Jesus, where to start.



                    Didnt fight anyone special? Rocky Marciano has one of the most impressive resumes in any divisions history.

                    -Archie Moore -------------- Recognized as top 5
                    -"Jersey" Joe Walcott twice - One of the top 10
                    -Joe Louis ------------------ Recognized as best boxer in history
                    -Phil Muscato
                    -Freddie Beshore
                    -Harry "Kid" Matthews
                    -Ezzard Charles (Twice)
                    -Roland LaStanza (Twice) --- One of the top five chins in history

                    Its not just that he fought legends, he beat them all, mostly by KO.

                    Rocky Marciano has the highest percentage of KOs than any other boxer in history at 88%. We already came to a conclusion that its more impressive than George Foremans record of his fist 49 fights as Rocky Marciano fought 2X's as many legends and even more iron chins.



                    Rocky Marciano had his own defensive style of boxing, it was sloppy looking, but incredibly successful. It was much harder to land any punch on Marciano as he would duck more throw his body back and jump around than what it would seem. Check out his moves here.

                    The Greatest Heavyweight Champion EVER!
                    My rating: 5 out of 5

                    Comments: Rocky Marciano was an Italian-American boxer who is the greatest Heavyweight champion to ever box, he is the only heavyweight champion to have retire UDEFEATED after FOUR YEARS of holding the title. He fought the best and he beat the best. A huge achievement that noone else has equaled. Heres a famous clip of his knockout of Joe Louis, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofpq9ZVBZ98

                    Still dont believe me? Fine dont take my word, take the word of the Legends that lost to him.





                    asked where Marciano had improved most between the first and second fights:


                    Others




                    Ali said he was surprised at how hard it was to land a hit on Marciano when they had the exhibition, the computer match.
                    Latest news coverage, email, free stock quotes, live scores and video are just the beginning. Discover more every day at Yahoo!


                    Arguement that Marciano only beat people past their prime.

                    Latest news coverage, email, free stock quotes, live scores and video are just the beginning. Discover more every day at Yahoo!


                    Seems to me these facts speak louder than anything else. Marcianos age difference is actually lower than all of the other legends when they won their titles.

                    Their was a ten year age difference between Moore and Marciano, significant but not nearly as bad as some of the above, and they are more well known that Marciano.

                    Check this out, Floyd Patterson was 21 years younger than Archie Moore and Archie KOed him by the fifth round. This happened after Marciano KOed Archie Moore.



                    And it took Tyson 12 rounds, in his prime, to win a fight with James Smith by desicion. Tyson was 14 years younger than James Smith


                    If you think winning a desicion over James Smith, who the hell is that, with a 14 year age difference is more impressive than KOing a man 10 years older than you that has gone down in history as one of the finest men in boxing you are the most biased person on these boards.

                    in 1969 Marciano had an exhibition match when at 46 years old with a much younger Muhammad Ali who had was already established himself as the greatest. The 46 year old Marciano beat Ali. You can argue the computer was wrong, we all know computers are unreliable.

                    Latest news coverage, email, free stock quotes, live scores and video are just the beginning. Discover more every day at Yahoo!


                    I leave you with this,




                    43 KNOCK OUTS in 49 fights!

                    is all that bull**** needed

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                    • butterfly1964
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SuzieQ49
                      160lb joe choysnki KO 3 jack johnson in 1901
                      chonski weighed about 170 when he fought johnson. and johnson himself only weighed about 180 at that time.

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