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Originally posted by butterfly1964
why the **** would anyone be so ****** to ask if ali was a top ten hw? here's an even better question. why would any idiot say that marciano is a top ten hw, when he wasn't a hw and he never fought any hw's and the fact that marciano is a piece of trash!
i bet this fool who started this thread has marciano over ali. better yet i bet every other racist white has marciano over ali. not only is ali a top ten hw of all-time, but he is the best period! ali crushed legends! he was able to win the title at 36 when most fighters are done at 22(most people claim that tyson wasn't in his prime when he fought bruno the first time or douglass).
for the ******s who say louis was better. louis was pathetic! louis' entire career consisted of him beating up on small, glass chin bums, and big, slow-moving glass chin bums. for those who say rocky friggin' marciano is better, then you are more ******ed than the louis fans. rocky's chin is overrated. he wasn't fast on his feet. and his power was only good enough to knock out the bums he fought during his career. while ali has a granite chin, is very fast, and has good, underrated power(how else would he have a 62% ko percentage). let me see, great chin, great speed, and underrated power versus overrated chin, poor speed, and power only good enough to knock out a bunch of second-rate white fighters? hmmm, which one would you pick.
who else are you gonna say is better than ali? liston? ha! liston got his butt handed to him two times so enough said. who else, foreman? prime foreman was ko'd by an old ali, so imagine what a young one would do to him. holmes? holmes was a poor man's version of ali and his only claim to fame is being the only one to stop an old, decrepit ali, but the corner through in the towel, ali wanted to continue. holmes doesn't have the chin
, speed, or physical strength that ali has. who else? tyson? buster douglass used a simple stick-and-move and beat him. tyson couldn't handle douglass' nor holyfield's punching power, so ali, who punches way harder than both these cats would hurt tyson even more if they ever fought. who now? dempsey? dempsey was picked apart and stunned continuously by gene freaking tunney a light heavyweight. a big, strong hw like ali would have murdered dempsey. who else? lennox lewis? don't make me laugh. the guy moves like a statue compared to ali. lewis' weak chin would succumb to ali's accumulative blows in a matter of 8 or 9 rounds. who now? johnson? johnson's has a very poor chin and is flatfooted. ali would pick him apart and ko him in the mid rounds. who else? frazier? frazier's best win was his first fight against a lay-off riden, slower ali. a fight ali fought like an idiot in! ali didn't train that much for the fight cause he thought frazier was a bumb. not only that, but even in the first quarry fight it was evident that ali's footspeed went bye-bye. but put in front of frazier the tiger that pulverized cleveland williams in '66, and you've got frazier dizzy and confuzed, ahahaha!! 
after those fighters i just named, no one else is really worth mentioning. many people say that "oh, well frazier and norton beat ali in his prime" and the fact is that nobody beat or floored a prime ali. ali knocks out any stick-and-mover with ease, embarrasses and knocks out any slugger with ease, and usually catches most swarmers and knocks them out. there is no one style that ali in his absolute prime would have that much trouble with.
what a dumb thread!
i bet this fool who started this thread has marciano over ali. better yet i bet every other racist white has marciano over ali. not only is ali a top ten hw of all-time, but he is the best period! ali crushed legends! he was able to win the title at 36 when most fighters are done at 22(most people claim that tyson wasn't in his prime when he fought bruno the first time or douglass).
for the ******s who say louis was better. louis was pathetic! louis' entire career consisted of him beating up on small, glass chin bums, and big, slow-moving glass chin bums. for those who say rocky friggin' marciano is better, then you are more ******ed than the louis fans. rocky's chin is overrated. he wasn't fast on his feet. and his power was only good enough to knock out the bums he fought during his career. while ali has a granite chin, is very fast, and has good, underrated power(how else would he have a 62% ko percentage). let me see, great chin, great speed, and underrated power versus overrated chin, poor speed, and power only good enough to knock out a bunch of second-rate white fighters? hmmm, which one would you pick.
who else are you gonna say is better than ali? liston? ha! liston got his butt handed to him two times so enough said. who else, foreman? prime foreman was ko'd by an old ali, so imagine what a young one would do to him. holmes? holmes was a poor man's version of ali and his only claim to fame is being the only one to stop an old, decrepit ali, but the corner through in the towel, ali wanted to continue. holmes doesn't have the chin
, speed, or physical strength that ali has. who else? tyson? buster douglass used a simple stick-and-move and beat him. tyson couldn't handle douglass' nor holyfield's punching power, so ali, who punches way harder than both these cats would hurt tyson even more if they ever fought. who now? dempsey? dempsey was picked apart and stunned continuously by gene freaking tunney a light heavyweight. a big, strong hw like ali would have murdered dempsey. who else? lennox lewis? don't make me laugh. the guy moves like a statue compared to ali. lewis' weak chin would succumb to ali's accumulative blows in a matter of 8 or 9 rounds. who now? johnson? johnson's has a very poor chin and is flatfooted. ali would pick him apart and ko him in the mid rounds. who else? frazier? frazier's best win was his first fight against a lay-off riden, slower ali. a fight ali fought like an idiot in! ali didn't train that much for the fight cause he thought frazier was a bumb. not only that, but even in the first quarry fight it was evident that ali's footspeed went bye-bye. but put in front of frazier the tiger that pulverized cleveland williams in '66, and you've got frazier dizzy and confuzed, ahahaha!! after those fighters i just named, no one else is really worth mentioning. many people say that "oh, well frazier and norton beat ali in his prime" and the fact is that nobody beat or floored a prime ali. ali knocks out any stick-and-mover with ease, embarrasses and knocks out any slugger with ease, and usually catches most swarmers and knocks them out. there is no one style that ali in his absolute prime would have that much trouble with.
what a dumb thread!
One of the best posts ever. It will haunt Butterfly forever.
But seriously, some of the stuff u said was ****ed up:
Marciano wasnt a heavywieght??? And he never fought heavywieghts??
He was a piece of trash.
Anyone who rates Marciano over Ali is racist! LMAO!
And Ali had a granite chin....of course he did.
I wonder if he rates ANY other heavyweight in the history of the sport?
I will never be able to take his opinion seriously again.
Sorry Butterfly.
The stout young man was good I tell ya'! 
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