if you dont think ali's number one u should be banned

[butterfly1964]

A slow Ali? If that Ali was slow than a prime Ali is incredible overrated because the Ali who fought Frazier was only slightly slower than the mid to late 60's version.

in terms of handspeed, no, ali wasn't slow. but his footspeed diminished.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

in terms of handspeed, no, ali wasn't slow. but his footspeed diminished.

wasn't that because he mostly did a rope-a-dope like defense

or are we talking earlier in his comeback

[Kid Achilles]

It diminished but even then he wasn't slow. Just admit you were exaggerating when you called him a "slow Ali" and we'll call it even.

[butterfly1964]

Quarry was a great fighter, I don't know what's funny about that. Ali and Frazier were lucky that Quarry cut so easily. But if you look at the guys that both Frazier and Ali fought, Frazier usually beat them quicker. Doug Jones, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo, Buster Mathis, etc.

*****, please! it took 7 rounds of punching for frazier to stop quarry, and quarry took frazier to the limits, hitting frazier often. ali hadn't fought in nearly 4 years and just stepped in and beat quarry alot easier than frazier did. it only took three rounds and quarry hit him maybe twice. and it only took ali two rounds to cut quarry, whereas it took like five rounds for frazier to do it. also ali stopped bonavena, something frazier couldn't do in 81 minutes of fighting. bonavena gave frazier a much harder time than he did ali, flooring him twice in the second round of thier first fight, something he couldn't do to ali.

[butterfly1964]

It diminished but even then he wasn't slow. Just admit you were exaggerating when you called him a "slow Ali" and we'll call it even.

alright, he wasn't slow.

[smasher]

But if you look at the guys that both Frazier and Ali fought, Frazier usually beat them quicker. Doug Jones, Bob Foster, George Chuvalo, Buster Mathis, etc.

George Foreman...

[Piggu]

Joe Louis KO1 Muhammad Ali

HAHAHAHA

At a nuthugger thread, too.

[chosen_one]

well, not really. i mean everybody got a right to their own opinions. i do believe that anyone who doesn't have ali in their top 5 is borderline ******ed, though.

ur right and i agree with u and everything u post i agree with u 100 percent

[RockyMarcianofan00]

i'm not sure top5
but anybody who doesn't have him in there top 15 (at the veryleast) is just hating

technically he should be in the top10 but top5 is where he would most likely end up

[butterfly1964]

i'm not sure top5
but anybody who doesn't have him in there top 15 (at the veryleast) is just hating

technically he should be in the top10 but top5 is where he would most likely end up

are you crazy?