Wladimir or Lennox - Who ranks highest

[beez721]

Nah Wladimir loses 10 out of10 to Lennox.

-Lennox has the reach

-Lennox has the better variety of punches

-Lennox is actually the more proficient clincher as well and has even knocked guys out during the clinch lol.

ridiculous. lennox never fought anyone his size that was as big a two fisted puncher as wlad. sure,,,lennox would win the majority of the time but if they were to fight ten times I find it hard to belieive that wlad wouldnt catch him with something big at least in a couple of those fights. theyre both big powerful men

[Joeyzagz]

ridiculous. lennox never fought anyone his size that was as big a two fisted puncher as wlad. sure,,,lennox would win the majority of the time but if they were to fight ten times I find it hard to belieive that wlad wouldnt catch him with something big at least in a couple of those fights. theyre both big powerful men

How Wlad wins fights

-mass advantage (even)
-height/reach advantage (Lennox)
-Power (even)
-clinching (Lennox)
- boxing technique (Wlad slightly)

He won't have any of these trump cards against Lennox. Lennox is equal or better at everything except for technique in which Wlad has a slight edge. Wlad would have to fight out of charCter & rush in like Paquiaio to really catch the longer Lennox Lewis.

[beez721]

How Wlad wins fights

-mass advantage (even)
-height/reach advantage (Lennox)
-Power (even)
-clinching (Lennox)
- boxing technique (Wlad slightly)

He won't have any of these trump cards against Lennox. Lennox is equal or better at everything except for technique in which Wlad has a slight edge. Wlad would have to fight out of charCter & rush in like Paquiaio to really catch the longer Lennox Lewis.

well,,,I actually agree with most of the above but I think wlad takes 2 or 3 out of ten. lennox has a better chin than wlad but its not granite and I think wlad would crack it a couple times if they fought often enough but yes,,,,,lennox was the better all around fighter and takes 7 out of 10 imo

[KnockoutNed]

chris byrd has a different opinion. vitali does better against the sluggers while wlad does better against the boxers

Byrd is a different situation. Vitali was handling Byrd easily until he tore out his shoulder. Had he not decided to quit he would have won by a very wide margin.
Vitali was just the better fighter plain and simple. There isn't a single opponent on Wlad's uninspiring resume that Vitali couldn't have handled but the same can't be said vice versa for Wlad.

[KnockoutNed]

Many posters I've come across, and many insiders of the sport too. Vladimir is clearly the finer boxer, technically speaking, courtesy of Emanuel Steward. Vladimir is an Olympic gold medalist too. He has the far more accomplished career.

H2H is a different discussion of course. But it seems the more clinical approach of Vladimir could make for a chess match with Lennox, actually it would be a totally different fight than Vitali-Lennox, come to think of it.

Technically I'd take Vitali's elusiveness, superior ring generalship and punch variety over anything Wlad does. Emanuel Steward just taught Wlad how to illegally tie down opponents in order to mask his weaknesses.

Vitali was the one selected to box in the Olympics but the positive drug test got him kicked off the team and his brother got the opportunity instead. Had that not happened Vitali would've been the one fighting for gold, not Wlad. He was the universally recognized HW champion until he was forced to retire with injuries. Again Wlad's rise to prominence only occurred when Vitali was taken out of the picture.

Wlad's resume is only marginally better than Vitali's and that's just because he was retired all those years but Vitali performed far better against common opponents and in general as well.

As far as Lewis-Wlad is concerned, I just see Lewis easily knocking him out in the early rounds. Wlad's jab and grab routine wouldn't work against a great fighter especially one like Lewis who who has a similar build and style but is above and beyond superior in every single aspect of boxing.

[Ben Bolt]

The ogre's rendition of a fairy dance has desperately lacked one thing for a long time--a ukulele to accompany it around the fire barrels of homeless camps.

Your reply on the now closed “What was the more embarrasing loss” thread makes me wonder: What’s the psychological factor behind people spitting their hate of another person (in this case Wlad K.) on the net, while they never would do the same if the we’re talking to the person face to face.

You could argue if Wlad is an entertaining fighter or not, but calling a guy with a 64-3 (53 KO) record – and who never ducked anyone, risking his health in a dangerous sport – an embarrasment to the sport makes me a bit bewildered.

Maybe a bit of self-awareness of one’s own merits and demerits should be considered a thought before uttering harsh words of others.

[The Old LefHook]

Your reply on the now closed “What was the more embarrasing loss” thread makes me wonder: What’s the psychological factor behind people spitting their hate of another person (in this case Wlad K.) on the net, while they never would do the same if the we’re talking to the person face to face.

You could argue if Wlad is an entertaining fighter or not, but calling a guy with a 64-3 (53 KO) record – and who never ducked anyone, risking his health in a dangerous sport – an embarrasment to the sport makes me a bit bewildered.

Maybe a bit of self-awareness of one’s own merits and demerits should be considered a thought before uttering harsh words of others.

Vlad's a personable man. Can't say the same for his boxing. He definitely needs a ukulele. Non champions like myself have a right to voice our opinions on champions, even if other non champions find those opinions harsh.

I suspect you are someone who visitis boxing sites on Vlad's behalf trying to ramp up the troops. Maybe you are a publicist's minion or a camp follower.

As one of our own local deans succinctly pointed out, the man never learned to accept a punch. He thinks the ring is a big treadmill turned on high. It is just a personal preference that I do not want to watch a girly man champion, and would not soil my guests with such viewing. Burly men everywhere are insulted by this red's--I mean this Californian's nervous style.

[juggernaut666]

Vlad's a personable man. Can't say the same for his boxing. He definitely needs a ukulele. Non champions like myself have a right to voice our opinions on champions, even if other non champions find those opinions harsh.

I suspect you are someone who visitis boxing sites on Vlad's behalf trying to ramp up the troops. Maybe you are a publicist's minion or a camp follower.

As one of our own local deans succinctly pointed out, the man never learned to accept a punch. He thinks the ring is a big treadmill turned on high. It is just a personal preference that I do not want to watch a girly man champion, and would not soil my guests with such viewing. Burly men everywhere are insulted by this red's--I mean this Californian's nervous style.

You're the type that will praise Ali in a heart beat ,the TRUE runner and CLINCHER who half the time didnt k.o any of his top fighters,now go get a dictionary and look up the word contradictory and if you have time "Dolt",along with that local dean you speak of.

[Ben Bolt]

I suspect you are someone who visitis boxing sites on Vlad's behalf trying to ramp up the troops.

As a matter of fact, I’ve been hoping for a new heavy champ quite a while now, as I don’t find Wlad that entertaining. I don’t think Floyd Mayweather’s fights ain’t that thrilling either.
But I do think both guys are helluva fighters!

Non champions like myself have a right to voice our opinions

Of course you have, as I have the right to express my thoughts that too much trash-talk towards a fighter is unnecessary.

Give and take. It wouldn’t be much of a forum if we all shared the same views.

[KnockoutNed]

A brief review of Wlad-Lewis: