Was Lennox using PEDs

[ukbox]

Boxing does not have a anti-doping strategy. It is the stand out professional sport in which almost zero testing is conducted.

That does not automatically make all boxers dopers, but if you look at the last few years where some minor testing has been done - the boxers, promoters and authorities have in the whole acted very poorly.

The Erik Morales-Danny Garcia situation was a good indication of how doping is dealt with in boxing.

The message I get is: It's impossible to catch a boxer who dopes as they set when they will be tested, and if they mismanage their usage, depending on which promotional company they're with, they may get a second or third chance to pass the test.

Despite Mayweathers PR for drug testing and being clean we are in a worse place then the Armstrong era of cycling.

Armstrong didn't dispute that PED's were effective, he claimed he felt he had to take them as everyone else was on them.
He tried to justify it by saying he was levelling the competition by taking the same PED's as people he was racing.

Johnson beat a guy that he couldn't beat. He smashed his records & times.

PED's aren't a slight tweak.
In boxing if all the elite guys were using then there would be more fatalities in the ring, more brain injuries, more heart attacks of former fighters. We're not seeing that.

Many of these guys are born in the gym, most start as 5-8 years old, they are special from early on.

[juggernaut666]

The greatness displayed isn't the result of some PED, it's the result of decades of learning & perfecting their skills.

Put an average fighter on peds and he will become a world elite fighter in most cases,he doesn't need to be a champion to be effective....its exactly like the captain America syndrome...take a 120 pound weakiing and give him a serum and he becomes a muscle bound athlete able to press 800 pounds,thats of course the extreme but ive seen MMa fighters go from 200 pounds to 270 pound wrecking balls not losing for almost a decade,one does not necessarily have to be a world beater before taking peds,peds will enchance ones abilities no matter what level they are on or what they learned..peds also have absolutely no correlation with heart attacks or any anaommolies unless you look like Ronnie Coleman or absolutely don't know what you are doing...if that was the case how many dead body building 300 pound freaks of today would be dropping by the day?Media can nit pick deaths in some cases but the average person dying from steroid use is about 1%.

[joeandthebums]

In boxing if all the elite guys were using then there would be more fatalities in the ring, more brain injuries, more heart attacks of former fighters. We're not seeing that.

Lamont Peterson, Andre Berto, Antonio Tarver, Erik Morales and Brandon Rios - all caught when they had agreed the time period in which they would be tested.

I'm not saying each and every boxer active is using, but if they were we would never know as there are no mechanisms in place to catch those cheating - and those that are caught, nothing happens to them.

[ukbox]

Put an average fighter on peds and he will become a world elite fighter in most cases,he doesn't need to be a champion to be effective....its exactly like the captain America syndrome...take a 120 pound weakiing and give him a serum and he becomes a muscle bound athlete able to press 800 pounds,thats of course the extreme but ive seen MMa fighters go from 200 pounds to 270 pound wrecking balls not losing for almost a decade,one does not necessarily have to be a world beater before taking peds,peds will enchance ones abilities no matter what level they are on or what they learned..

That's a joke isn't it?

Boxing isn't about muscle & size, they can help within reason.
Boxing is about technique, fundamentals & ring smarts. Heart, grit & determination are factors.

[ukbox]

Lamont Peterson, Andre Berto, Antonio Tarver, Erik Morales and Brandon Rios - all caught when they had agreed the time period in which they would be tested.

I'm not saying each and every boxer active is using, but if they were we would never know as there are no mechanisms in place to catch those cheating - and those that are caught, nothing happens to them.

There have been people classed as PED cheats for taking sports shakes from nutrition shops, incorrectly labelled.

Lamont Peterson has doctors on record stating that his caps were due to low test, the caps only raised his levels to normal range.
When you consider that a lot of guys in the game are naturally high test Peterson was at a natural disadvantage. They are given to plenty of men & don't turn them into muscle machines. There has to be context. Peterson's was a disclosure issue.

[joeandthebums]

Lamont Peterson has doctors on record stating that his caps were due to low test, the caps only raised his levels to normal range.
When you consider that a lot of guys in the game are naturally high test Peterson was at a natural disadvantage. They are given to plenty of men & don't turn them into muscle machines. There has to be context. Peterson's was a disclosure issue.

Why did Peterson not request a the****utic use exemption? From his samples being taken to the final announcement that both samples had tested positive - 45 days had passed and Peterson never during this time made any declaration of his hypogonadism.

A possible cause of his newly mentioned hypogonadism is the previous abuse of anabolic steroids.

[Scott9945]

There have been people classed as PED cheats for taking sports shakes from nutrition shops, incorrectly labelled.

Lamont Peterson has doctors on record stating that his caps were due to low test, the caps only raised his levels to normal range.
When you consider that a lot of guys in the game are naturally high test Peterson was at a natural disadvantage. They are given to plenty of men & don't turn them into muscle machines. There has to be context. Peterson's was a disclosure issue.

Low testosterone levels on athletes are usually to result of extended PED use. The average male's ratio should be 1:1. Peterson's level was tested at 3.7:1, well above average. That was certainly better than Mickey Bey's 30:1 test however.

[juggernaut666]

That's a joke isn't it?

Boxing isn't about muscle & size, they can help within reason.
Boxing is about technique, fundamentals & ring smarts. Heart, grit & determination are factors.

You obviously are young and really don't know what you are talking about,i box and do MMa and know how the athletic game works kid...nothing really more to say but you really don't know much on the ped subject and its effects on athletic ability.As ive studied the subject for over 2 decades now...have a good one.

[ukbox]

You obviously are young and really don't know what you are talking about,i box and do MMa and know how the athletic game works kid...nothing really more to say but you really don't know much on the ped subject and its effects on athletic ability.As ive studied the subject for over 2 decades now...have a good one.

Ok I'll play fantasy boxing

You must be a world champion elite boxer then?

I mean you have sussed the magic formula?
Why they call this trade a craft I'll never know
From your decades of study you've discovered that any average fighter will become world class elite from taking ped's.
My family's connection to boxing goes back to the days of Max Schmeling & Joe Louis through Max Machon

[juggernaut666]

Ok I'll play fantasy boxing

You must be a world champion elite boxer then?

I mean you have sussed the magic formula?
Why they call this trade a craft I'll never know
From your decades of study you've discovered that any average fighter will become world class elite from taking ped's.
My family's connection to boxing goes back to the days of Max Schmeling & Joe Louis through Max Machon

Obviously common sense skipped a generation .