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Originally posted by Yogi
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Nice list yogi really close to where I would have mine, though I think Alexis was a much better lightweight, and we never saw Hameds best cuz he retired after the barrera loss. -
As far as kid chocolate goes Sugar Ray Robinson said once that he thought kid chocolate was the best fighter he had ever seen and he actually studied Chocolate and incorporated alot of Chocolate's techniques in to his own arsenal.Comment
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Originally posted by Yogi
interesting and well informed list! i loved the way u included top 25 and mentioned many forgotten names like young corbett, chalky wright, etc.
* im VERY bias toward willie pep. hes one of my favorite fighters, but i truelly believe he deserves this ranking.
heres my list
1. Willie Pep
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Terry Mcgovern- PAST HIS PRIME AT JUST 21 YEARS OLD
6. George Dixon
7. Kid Chocolate
8. Abe Atell
9. Alexis Arguello- his best work was at super feather
10. Azumah NelsonLast edited by SuzieQ49; 03-23-2006, 04:45 PM.Comment
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no mickey. armstrongs best weight was DEFINTLEY featherweight.Originally posted by MickyHatton
in most of his welter title fights he was weighing around 135lbComment
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A whole ****load of historically great fighters to chose from in this division, so it was pretty easy coming up with 25-30 names for inclusion/mention in it.Originally posted by SuzieQ49
Biased or not, going by what's available of him on film, contemporary fight reports/opinions, and by browsing his record, it's pretty easy to rate Pep as the best in this division for all-time...Unless somebody absolutely spectacular comes along sometime in the future and dominates this division like no other, Pep will be my number one Featherweight until the end of my days (besides maybe Robinson & Wilde in their respective best divisions, he's about the clearest number one out there for me).
You've come up with a excellant looking list too, Brockton, and it seems the only difference we really have is me probably giving more credit to both Dixon & McGovern as Bantamweights than Featherweights (Dixon defended the Featherweight title plenty of times while weighing in under the modern Bantamweight limit...Also McGovern beat Dixon while both weighed around 116, so again, I count that more on his Bantamweight resume)...Both would rank very high amongst my list of the greatest Bantamweights in history, as I'd have no problem including them in my top five in that division.Comment
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No Suzie thats your opinion and your entitled to it, IMO his best weight was welter!Originally posted by SuzieQ49Comment
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1. Henry Armstrong
2. Willie Pep
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Freddie Miller
6. Terry Mcgovern
7. Johnny Kilbane
8. Alexis Arguello
9. Azumah Nelson
10. Kid Chocolate
Something like that.Comment
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Originally posted by MickyHatton
that doesnt make any sense. armstrong was A HUGE FEATHERWEIGHT AND DOMINATED THE DIVISION.
armstrong was a small 133lb welterweight. how the hell's he gonna be able to beat some of the all time great welters like HUGE 137lb tommy hearns or leonard weighing 133lb?
armstrong was FAR more effective at featherweight, and historians agree with me.Comment
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1 Henry Armstrong
2 Sandy Saddler
3 Willy Pep
4. Danny Lopez
5. Abe Attell
6 Eusebio Pedroza
7 Alexis Arguello
8 Chalky Wright
9. Vincente Saldivar
10. Jim DriscollComment
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God Almighty. It never ends. It never fu.cking ends... It's like Mike Myers... or a James Cameron film.
Here's my list - with actual Featherweights, no less:
Pep
Saddler
Kilbane
McGovern
Miller
Driscoll
Sanchez
Pedroza
Saldivar
Atell
*Lomachenko gets H.M. he only had like 3 fights there, but he's as good as anyone that sized not named Willie Pep.Comment
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