Sonny listons peak was 1958 wayne bethea fight

[Verstyle]

liston barely trained for the clay fight.

ahahaha. what there tryin to say is ali beat an out of his prime liston . i know thats a dagger to your heart

[butterfly1964]

ahahaha. what there tryin to say is ali beat an out of his prime liston . i know thats a dagger to your heart

not really. ali wasn't in his prime either, was he?

[Verstyle]

not really. ali wasn't in his prime either, was he?

so whats better out of prime or not in prime. i think not in prime. cause when your not in prime u still got hand speed power and all that stuff but when your out of prime all that stuff starts to disappear. HA!

[mokele]

shock absorbing

Maybe it's not about conditioning in the new millenium, but shock absorbing instead.

Well, if it's about shock absorbing then Eric "Butterbean" Esch has a leg up on the rest of 'em.

http://silversurfer91.homestead.com/files/butterbean_punch.jpg

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1997/yearinreview/perspectives/images/butterbean.jpg

http://todaynews.seesaa.net/image/butterbean.jpg

[Kid Achilles]

Ali was closer to his prime than Liston. Much closer.

[Heckler]

He might of been out of his prime, however it becomes obvious that Liston and more to the point his style would struggle with Ali in any point in his career, as with buster and mike, frazier and ali.

[SuzieQ49]

ali was in his prime vs liston dont kid urself.


alis prime was 64-67

[butterfly1964]

ali was in his prime vs liston dont kid urself.


alis prime was 64-67

he wasn't as powerful as he was when he fought cleveland williams.

[SuzieQ49]

ur prime is a span of ur best years, ur prime lasts longer than one fight!

[butterfly1964]

ur prime is a span of ur best years, ur prime lasts longer than one fight!

remember ali's best years were robbed because of 'nam.