Hopkins vs Toney 160-175lb on their best night.

[sonnyboyx2]

Brilliant replies and analysis from you guys..Thankyou, there is nothing i could add.

[The Old LefHook]

There is a distinct advantage in punching power for Toney. He could simply ignore Ho'kin's punches to deliver his own, if it got down to that. Ho'kins was a medium puncher at any weight. The Ho'kins strategy would be to make it a not-fight again.

[jas]

Hopkins that beats Trinidad beats any Toney

He would use movement and tag Toney from the outside, potshotting, countering

Toney is overrated because he had an aesthically pleasing style. Yes Toney could fight well off the ropes, on the inside and in the middle of ring but I truly believe Hopkins is the better overall fighter and bhop was a man possessed by victory that night he beat Tito

Hopkins Clear UD

[Suckmedry]

Hopkins that beats Trinidad beats any Toney

He would use movement and tag Toney from the outside, potshotting, countering

Toney is overrated because he had an aesthically pleasing style. Yes Toney could fight well off the ropes, on the inside and in the middle of ring but I truly believe Hopkins is the better overall fighter and bhop was a man possessed by victory that night he beat Tito

Hopkins Clear UD

Hopkins doesn't have the speed to make Toney look bad with movement. Toney would still be able to time him now and then. I think it would be a ridiculously close technical fight of the highest class.

[baya]

In my opinion, Toney was more talented than Hopkins ever was. In a pure sense, Hopkins was better overall and would give anyone nightmares. He was an all terrain type fighter. but in the dimension that Toney focused on, he was a lot more talented and arguably better than Hopkins.

At counter punching, Toney was more skilled than Hopkins. Hopkins was a great spoiler, but he really couldn't handle certain styles.

I think it's a pretty close competitive fight, but if Toney is at his very best at MW he should edge it IMO. At most ranges, Toney will have the advantage.

this is how i see it, toney to me is better in every dept ...

[beez721]

Hopkins that beats Trinidad beats any Toney

He would use movement and tag Toney from the outside, potshotting, countering

Toney is overrated because he had an aesthically pleasing style. Yes Toney could fight well off the ropes, on the inside and in the middle of ring but I truly believe Hopkins is the better overall fighter and bhop was a man possessed by victory that night he beat Tito

Hopkins Clear UD

hops looked great that night but toney and tito were totally different fighters and tito was much too small for hops. his best days were at welter

[jas]

What is toneys signature win?

What fight would you point to and say : that's Toney at his best we have seen him

[Ray Corso]

Hopkins best wins were against welters and junior middles moving up. His opponents pale in comparison to Toneys ledger. Toney is a multi-styled fighter Hopkins is a defensive counter move counter punch who needs to out wit his opponents. Toney doesn't fall into that when he was prime. Once again at 160+
you need power to make the difference and all though Toney wasn't a big puncher Hopkins would be "unwilling" to take the lead.
I like Toney by distance win and it could get boring if Hopkins stays defensive.

Ray.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

What is toneys signature win?

What fight would you point to and say : that's Toney at his best we have seen him

Toney vs mccallum is peak toney...


But toney does look absolutely brilliant in the Barkley fight

[beez721]

Toney vs mccallum is peak toney...


But toney does look absolutely brilliant in the Barkley fight

I also loved his fight with prince charles williams. that was a classic performance