.....that are not from the fabulous 4?
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SRR.
Jake Lamotta.
Joes Torres if he went down a division.
Manny Pac.
Roberto Duran.
Thomas Hearns.
Henry Armstrong.
A better question would be which not "washed up" fighter could Floyd beat without waiting for them to slow down and age before fighting them with fixed matches and extra padded gloves.
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Originally posted by Mike Bison View PostSRR.
Jake Lamotta.
Joes Torres if he went down a division.
Manny Pac.
Roberto Duran.
Thomas Hearns.
Henry Armstrong.
A better question would be which not "washed up" fighter could Floyd beat without waiting for them to slow down and age before fighting them with fixed matches and extra padded gloves.
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..fighters that beat Mayweather.....
Tyrone Philips tko 2
Ray Lenard tko 10
Clayton Hines decs.
Marlon Starling (twice) decs.
Roger Turner decs.
this would be Floyd Sr. defeats, no one has beaten Floyd Jr. yet! Roger had about 15 looses!
Ray.Last edited by Ray Corso; 11-06-2014, 05:57 PM.
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It is hard to say for definite, but I'd have like to see Floyd handle an elite fighter with a significant height and reach advantage. A prime Vernon Forrest or prime Paul Williams might be a couple of tough matches.
I've always felt that Thomas Hearns over 12 rounds would be the biggest threat; but the thread forbids the fab four!
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I think that Lamotta would provide the biggest problem for Floyd, Sugar Ray was basically Floyd but 1000 times better. Watching Lamotta vs Sugar Ray really shows how much of a problem Lamotta would have been for Floyd, burrowing in and probably scoring a knockout before round 10.
That being said, I also think Sugar Ray would do equally as good a job as Lamotta, again probably either getting a knockout or a stoppage before round 10.
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Say what you want but Floyd's one of the most adaptable boxers I've seen with just about every weapon and defensive move in his arsenal
With that being said I'd give the nod to:
Roberto Duran
Tommy Hearns
SRL
SRR
maybe Pernell Whitaker
JCC Sr at lightweight
Manny Pacquiao
I mean it's really hard to say a lot of the greats he has beaten were either weight drained or past their prime. Then again who's to say Floyd was in his prime when he fought Oscar and Shane. Prime for prime I'd still probably give Floyd the edge against Shane and Oscar though
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Originally posted by Mike Bison View PostI think that Lamotta would provide the biggest problem for Floyd, Sugar Ray was basically Floyd but 1000 times better. Watching Lamotta vs Sugar Ray really shows how much of a problem Lamotta would have been for Floyd, burrowing in and probably scoring a knockout before round 10.
That being said, I also think Sugar Ray would do equally as good a job as Lamotta, again probably either getting a knockout or a stoppage before round 10.
lamotta was a career MW, in fact he started his career at 175 and then moved down. at 160 he had to boil down and cut a lot of weight to make the limit. he only gave SRR problems because of that immense size advantage and floyd is even smaller than ray.
nobody is talking about MWs except you. if we were talking MWs you could make a list a mile long and thats not a knock on floyd, dude is just way too small to compete at that weight against natural MWs.
SRR was a lightweight at one point, having his prime years at WW. so he was bigger than floyd but its a reasonable size difference. he would knock floyd out in a fight that actually makes sense.
someone mentioned curry, i doubt that. curry was very good but based on his fights with starling (the only really good WW technician he ever beat) i think floyd beats him. besides, curry would square up his feet and keep them too far apart and had poor movement as a result. i dont see how he would keep up with the mobility of a prime mayweather. even if he did successfully cut floyd off mayweather could just step inside and exploit currys lack of an inside game.
emile griffith, jose napoles, vernon forrest and maybe kid gavilan would all have good chances of beating floyd at WW which isnt his best weight.
aaron pryor, sweet pea and ike williams would give him a good run for his money at the lower weights.
he would box circles around pacquiao and chavez sr who have been mentioned by others. i broke both fights down a million times already, not in the mod to do it again.
also, i ignored the fabulous four as specified in the thread.
edit: SRR was not "basically floyd but 1000 times better" at all, they were very, very different fighters stylistically.
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