any one go from as many highs and lows as the hands of stone
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Has any fighter had as volitile career as duran?
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James toney comes close
Hopkins has had a wild ride as well..
Evander Holyfield had a lot of ups and downs
Ali and Ray Leonard also
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Do you mean his win/loss record? He did gain alot of weight between fights and had to kill himself to get back down, same as toney did and over time it diminishes you.
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Originally posted by sleazyfellow View PostDo you mean his win/loss record? He did gain alot of weight between fights and had to kill himself to get back down, same as toney did and over time it diminishes you.
from going to the top of the world, IE beating Leonard, to the bottom when Hearns completely destroyed him... and then back up when he beat Barkley and Moore. toney is as good a shout as any.
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Saoul Mamby? High end journeymen, losing a lot of fights then becomes a world champion at 32 and then starts to lose again and is back to being a high end journeyman and continues fighting into his 50s.
Fritzie Zivic? I'm not sure you can get a more puzzling record than his. Or perhaps even Izzy Jannazzo. In fact there are quite a few fighters from the 30s and 40s with wildly divergent performances.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostJames toney comes close
Hopkins has had a wild ride as well..
Evander Holyfield had a lot of ups and downs
Ali and Ray Leonard also
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Originally posted by rightsideup View PostGreat examples but I am a little puzzled by Ray Leonard he was dominate until coming to the last 2 fights of his carreer. unless you count his performance against keven howard as a low.
1 was a great amateur star
2 decided not to turn pro
3 needed money, baby on the way, turned pro
4 boxing darling, huge draw, world champ at welter
5 loses to Duran in a slugfest
6 beats Duran one sided and makes him quit
7 gets the crap boxed out of him by hearns thru 12 rds, corner tells him he is blowing it
8 makes dramatic comeback over the hearns in the 13th n 14th rds
9 fractured eye socket from hearns causes floaters
10 cancels fight with Pryor and forced into early retirement
11. Gets hype back when everyone is convinced he is gonna comeback and fight hagler
12 holds a presser just to announce no fight with hagler, he is retired
13 does make a comeback and struggles with Kevin Howard
14 retires again and gets coked out
15 after a few years, announces fight with hagler- Ray is a huge underdog
16.ray does the unthinkable and beats hagler
17 hagler retires, leaving no big money rematch in 88
18 gets Donny ladonde for 2 belts at once, nice achievement
19 lands hearns rematch
20 gets dropped by hearns and many considered Ray got a gift draw
21 Ray dominates Duran in the rubber match
22 beaten up by Norris
23 several years later announces comeback to much fanfare
24 gets demolished by camacho
25 retires for good, and is now seen as a living legend ATG
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thanks for expanding just a couple of points Ray was already a dad as an amateur and I believe it was his father's medical bills that were his main motivation for turning pro.
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Originally posted by rightsideup View Postthanks for expanding just a couple of points Ray was already a dad as an amateur and I believe it was his father's medical bills that were his main motivation for turning pro.
In the infamous words of a certain person "I misremembered"
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