Is Ali the only man in history that.....

[Daddy T]

I don't think anybody would have done to foreman what ali did. honestly 90% of that fight was won by ali before they ever got to the ring and even in the ring it was so much down to the mental and verbal beat down that ali gave him that just drove foreman crazy. You think joe louis or Sonny Liston or whoever could have done that? I don't.

Liston for instance would have stood there and slugged it out with him ... he may have gotten the knockout but 9 times out of 10 foreman stuffs him.

Not saying nobody could have knocked him out ... of course plenty people COULD knock him out but virtually nobody ACTUALLY would. IMO I don't think anybody would have done a better job on him that ali did that night.

[Panamaniac]

Good point.....

I also think lennox Lewis could ko anyone if he was able to land flush,, he wrecked alot of fighters

Yep. The guy was a human wrecking ball. He didn't have many tools, but the two he had worked rather well. He used a pawing left jab to set-up devastating right cross that way too often was nothing more than a glancing blow.

[Panamaniac]

...Not saying nobody could have knocked him out ... of course plenty people COULD knock him out but virtually nobody ACTUALLY would. IMO I don't think anybody would have done a better job on him that ali did that night.

Come on... Anyone who COULD flatten Foreman, actually WOULD! It's a simple variation on Murphy's Law - "Anything that can go wrong, will".

[Mugwump]

At the fighting weights some of these guys enter the ring at, not to mention the enormous amounts of energy released by even soft-handed heavies, it's completely nuts to think only one man - in the history of boxing, ever - knocks out Prime George Foreman.

The truth is - skills, tactics, raw speed, poor defence, dumb luck or all or some together can put a 210lb fighter of even modest talent in precisely the right place at exactly the right time making the bomb George successfully blocked all night the KO punch he never saw coming.

[lego_boxer]

Not at all. Tyson for sure, and a well timed Hayemaker would send anybody down.

[SBleeder]

Sonny Liston and Joe Louis had the skills and power to KO a prime Foreman.

Also Alex Leapai.

[BattlingNelson]

Probably yes. Ali was able to psyche Foreman into expending all his energy way too soon. That was why Ali could knock him out.

On the other hand a fighter as limited as Lyle had Foreman in dire straits, but that was not the best Foreman.

[Scott9945]

Not at all. Tyson for sure, and a well timed Hayemaker would send anybody down.

Really? Who was the best fighter that Haye ever dropped, and how far below Foreman is he on the heavyweight food chain?

[Suckmedry]

Really? Who was the best fighter that Haye ever dropped, and how far below Foreman is he on the heavyweight food chain?

So fcking true. No one doubts that Haye can punch, the guys fast and athletic and he can definitely ****, but lately I've been seeing a lot of Klit fans try to paint him as some devastating puncher on an all time scale. The guy hasnt knocked out anyone who i would call a good HW.

[Cardinal Buck]

Ali was the only man capable of knocking him out. And Lyle and Jimmy Young were the only two capable of putting him down, but not out. Ever.