Dan Jones Top 10

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Sadly not many. I know Max Kellerman had decent heavyweight rankings but the best top 10 I've seen may be boxing.com's

too many guys are caught up in the celebrity or mystique of some fighters rather than researching cold hard facts and looking at resumes and timelines.

I gotta agree with this.... Media guys that cover boxing, honestly have no idea what they are talking about,,, they just go with the flow.. Example- before may 3rd Maidana was a huge underdog with about a 10% chance, may 4th Floyd is old, Maidana world class...

The major media like yahoo sports, espn etc, are only good for their connections and access to interviews.. Their actual analysis of boxing is horrible

[soul_survivor]

Hopefully the "Leonard" he's referring to is Benny...

Hopkins and Marciano have no business in a P4P top 10 list. Marciano's barely a top 10 heavyweight. Ali should not be rated higher than Greb, Charles, or Armstrong.

Nope its Sugar Ray and rightfully so.

So is there any boxing writer whose opinion you guys value and trust?

Yes, Thomas Hauser, Bert Sugar (RIP), that old English fella from The Sun who I can't remember, Kevin Mitchell in the UK (not the boxer)...I think that's about it. There are some more obscure writers from the golden age of boxing, I wonder what they'd make of all this.

I quite like Merchant too, the guy knows more about boxing than most of you will ever know but he gets disrespected a lot on here, maybe its cos he spent a decade asking Floyd questions he didn't have an answer to.

I gotta agree with this.... Media guys that cover boxing, honestly have no idea what they are talking about,,, they just go with the flow.. Example- before may 3rd Maidana was a huge underdog with about a 10% chance, may 4th Floyd is old, Maidana world class...

The major media like yahoo sports, espn etc, are only good for their connections and access to interviews.. Their actual analysis of boxing is horrible

Yahoo is often quite bad.

But the May/Maidana fight is unfair, 99% of human beings thought Floyd would school him, yes there was a chance of an upset due to Maids power but nothing more. The Maidana we saw last week came in like a wrecking ball and it was immense to watch but I'm not sure if he can duplicate that performance.

[SBleeder]

Nope its Sugar Ray and rightfully so.

Benny is unquestionably the greater Leonard.

[LacedUp]

So is there any boxing writer whose opinion you guys value and trust?

Tris Dixon - I have worked under him for a magazine called Boxing News. He knows his stuff - also historically. There's a couple of others from BN I really respected, and Bob Mee often did a feature as well.

[soul_survivor]

Benny is unquestionably the greater Leonard.

I dunno man, Ray was more skilled, more fluid, I'm guessing better to watch, I've seen very little footage of BL but from what I've seen he doesn't have the same grace as Ray. Don't let nostalgia blind your judgement, plus Ray has wins over Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez, most of those names are better than almost anyone BL fought, although Benny has a deeper resume, as is the case with most guys from that era.

[Holywarrior]

I gotta agree with this.... Media guys that cover boxing, honestly have no idea what they are talking about,,, they just go with the flow.. Example- before may 3rd Maidana was a huge underdog with about a 10% chance, may 4th Floyd is old, Maidana world class...

The major media like yahoo sports, espn etc, are only good for their connections and access to interviews.. Their actual analysis of boxing is horrible

I was talking to my friend if he was watching and he said hell No, Stephen A Smith said this dude he is fighting is a nobody!


You don't even wanna know the look I gave him

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Benny is unquestionably the greater Leonard.

Sugar Ray beat higher caliber fighters so i give him the higher ranking... Benny had more long term success, but wins over prime hearns, benitez, etc Just too many classic wins for Sugar Ray

[Holywarrior]

Sugar Ray beat higher caliber fighters so i give him the higher ranking... Benny had more long term success, but wins over prime hearns, benitez, etc Just too many classic wins for Sugar Ray

No. You are so stuck in the 70s and 80s it's crazy.

[#1Assassin]

So, he's a guy who writes for the Evening Standard and he put up a list of his top 10 greatest boxers ever. I don't really read the paper but here's the list and it's an interesting one:

1. Robinson (a bit obvious at this point)
2. Ali...obvious again
3. Armstrong, the holy trinity is complete
4. Louis
5. Pep (personally I'd have him def above Louis and possibly Armstrong too)
6. Leonard (good pick, a bit high?)
7. Duran
8. Greb (possibly not my top 10)
9. Marciano (the first real big shocker and a crazy pick imo)
10. Hopkins (I'm a fan, I'd have him top 20 but at 10?)

So no Charles, Moore, the likes of Hopkins and Marciano above Hagler and a few others, what do you all make of it?

terrible list.

dude probably just did the same list 90% of people have at the top, then picked his personal faves in the bottom five to make his list seem personal. or the other way to gain credibility with the upper half of the list after displaying his ignorance early.

no way marciano is a top10 p4p fighter, especially when someone like holmes isnt even on the list. not to mention charles and moore, how can he be so great beating up on middleweights and light heavyweights past their primes unless those older and smaller guys were truly special in their own right?

hopkins is a truly great fighter and ATG but he doesnt belong in the top10, even to someone like me who thought he beat both taylor and calzaghe handily and rates him accordingly.

greb and leonard are too high for my liking as well. greb is a top 15 fighter at best to me and leonard may crack the top 10 but if he does its just barely. the six spot is way too high for me.

[#1Assassin]

I was talking to my friend if he was watching and he said hell No, Stephen A Smith said this dude he is fighting is a nobody!


You don't even wanna know the look I gave him

i know, i watch a lot of first take and boxing is my favorite sport by far but when they talk about it i never last more than a minute. they are so clueless its embarrassing, the funny part is stephen a is actually the expert of the bunch since skip bayless knows literally nothing about boxing, zero.

i cringe every time he opens his mouth, thinking canelo had to weigh the same in the ring as on the scales was painful. as is the way he turns everything into a mayweather-pacquiao discussion since those are the only two fighters he seems to have heard of. his brilliant analysis that pacquiao beats mayweather 10/10 times merely because he has more power and completely refusing to take any other attribute into the equation but that and speed was epic comedy.