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  • #21
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
    Watch the tua-Ike fight... Ike can def handle a tough 12 round war, and still be going strong late...
    90s mike gets folded for sure... Only 85-88 mike had a legit chance of handling a war like that, but we don't know for sure since most of his fights that went the distance were mostly lopsided wins with guys just trying to survive ie bonecrusher
    Tua was not Mike Tyson.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Ike would take Tyson's best shots and fire back on mike, and mike would fold late...

      I understand when people are skeptical about Ike, I get that. But he did prove his chin vs tua over 12 rounds, his stamina and chin cannot be questioned after that, and he stopped a prime chris Byrd, which isn't an all time great win, but Byrd was a very difficult fighter in his prime and wasn't stopped in his prime except for Ike, who got him out of there in a hurry. So I think it's safe to assume that Ike was semi legit and much more proven than an Edwin Valero..
      IMO Ike would be able to withstand Tyson's early flurry and be able to take over the stretch and stop mike in the 10th or 11th.. I don't think Tyson has the heart or mental toughness to deal with Ike..
      Please. Tyson showed his ability to go to war against Ruddock not once but twice, and he could also take a vicious beating for 10 rounds without giving up(Douglass), and that was a Tyson post-Rooney. It's too lazy to use the old "Tyson would fold mentally". Ike doesn't have the strength or power to overpower Mike and I saw him hurt badly twice against Tua who doesn't have Tyson's two handed power from all kinds of angles, speed, accuracy and skill.

      Unless we are talking about this fight happening in the late 90s when Tyson was shot physically and mentally, in which case Ike could win.

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      • #23
        From Ibeabuchi's Boxrec page:

        "Release pending at age 41. "The President" certainly has plans to resume his career. Interested Promoters may call our Management/Mentor/Trainer Team Bill Hodge/John Wilkinson (860) 515-7680."


        He just turned 41. Anyone interested in getting in on the action?




        And prime Tyson beats Ibeabuchi by decision. Can't see a stoppage either way but Tyson was more skilled.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
          From Ibeabuchi's Boxrec page:

          "Release pending at age 41. "The President" certainly has plans to resume his career. Interested Promoters may call our Management/Mentor/Trainer Team Bill Hodge/John Wilkinson (860) 515-7680."


          He just turned 41. Anyone interested in getting in on the action?




          And prime Tyson beats Ibeabuchi by decision. Can't see a stoppage either way but Tyson was more skilled.
          I've heard that Ibeabuchi will be deported immediately when he is released.

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          • #25
            im not really seeing, and maybe because i havent seen enough, but how is IKE that much better than Ruddock when Tyson fought him not once but twice, if were gonna use post kevin rooney tyson thats the fight i think its fair to judge him on where he had to go the distance and put in work.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
              im not really seeing, and maybe because i havent seen enough, but how is IKE that much better than Ruddock when Tyson fought him not once but twice, if were gonna use post kevin rooney tyson thats the fight i think its fair to judge him on where he had to go the distance and put in work.
              thats the thing with ike. we really dont know just how good he was or would have turned out. he was obviously extremely strong with amazing stamina but both byrd and tua had there flaws. byrd was just much too small for ike and tua too one dimensional and I felt that fight should have been a draw. ike never fought a real well schooled fighter that could also punch. he was very good tho and had lots of potential. but putting him in the company of a lewis or tyson would just be ridiculously premature

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              • #27
                Originally posted by beez721 View Post
                thats the thing with ike. we really dont know just how good he was or would have turned out. he was obviously extremely strong with amazing stamina but both byrd and tua had there flaws. byrd was just much too small for ike and tua too one dimensional and I felt that fight should have been a draw. ike never fought a real well schooled fighter that could also punch. he was very good tho and had lots of potential. but putting him in the company of a lewis or tyson would just be ridiculously premature
                What well schooled fighters that could punch did Tyson fight..... None of the guys that Tyson fought were well schooled and could punch...
                Ruddock was ok, but severely overrated from he Tyson fights... Everyone hyped him up when mike went to prison, and even hbo was declaring him the uncrowned champ of the world going into the Lennox fight,, and then he got iced in about 4 minutes... I guarantee that Ike lasts longer than 4 minutes vs Lennox..



                I don't know why everyone so skeptical about Ike...
                100 punches a round... Check
                Great chin..... Check
                Great stamina...check
                Cut off the ring...check

                Tua is one of the hardest punchers ever and Ike took his shots flush and didn't blink...
                Tua also has a better chin than mike... Mike has a really good chin but tua is one of the few heavys that has a better one.. Tua would never be hurt or knocked out by buster Douglas.. Tua took flush shots for prime Ike, Rahman, Lennox etc and never went down or even buckled.,..

                Remind me again of the iron chinned, 100 punches a round, great stamina, bigger fighter that mike ever beat...
                Mike in his prime couldn't get rid of green, Tillis, bonecrusher, etc but now you want to say he would ko a guy that has a proven chin and stamina to go into wars that mike has never even sniffed....
                Ike would get blasted on early but return fire, and mike would fold up in rounds 8,9,10..
                I honestly don't see any scenario where mike could win...

                Posters wanna say that mike would ko Ike, yet Ike has been hit by one of the biggest punchers ever, and never buckled or hurt... Mike would panic once he hit Ike, and Ike didn't buckle.... Tyson folds... It's plain as day..
                You can't question Ike's chin, stamina, work rate, skills... They are proven facts....

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  What well schooled fighters that could punch did Tyson fight..... None of the guys that Tyson fought were well schooled and could punch...
                  Ruddock was ok, but severely overrated from he Tyson fights... Everyone hyped him up when mike went to prison, and even hbo was declaring him the uncrowned champ of the world going into the Lennox fight,, and then he got iced in about 4 minutes... I guarantee that Ike lasts longer than 4 minutes vs Lennox..



                  I don't know why everyone so skeptical about Ike...
                  100 punches a round... Check
                  Great chin..... Check
                  Great stamina...check
                  Cut off the ring...check

                  Tua is one of the hardest punchers ever and Ike took his shots flush and didn't blink...
                  Tua also has a better chin than mike... Mike has a really good chin but tua is one of the few heavys that has a better one.. Tua would never be hurt or knocked out by buster Douglas.. Tua took flush shots for prime Ike, Rahman, Lennox etc and never went down or even buckled.,..

                  Remind me again of the iron chinned, 100 punches a round, great stamina, bigger fighter that mike ever beat...
                  Mike in his prime couldn't get rid of green, Tillis, bonecrusher, etc but now you want to say he would ko a guy that has a proven chin and stamina to go into wars that mike has never even sniffed....
                  Ike would get blasted on early but return fire, and mike would fold up in rounds 8,9,10..
                  I honestly don't see any scenario where mike could win...

                  Posters wanna say that mike would ko Ike, yet Ike has been hit by one of the biggest punchers ever, and never buckled or hurt... Mike would panic once he hit Ike, and Ike didn't buckle.... Tyson folds... It's plain as day..
                  You can't question Ike's chin, stamina, work rate, skills... They are proven facts....
                  I keep reading this, an it is all based on ONE fight. Sure he looked great against Tua, but that was a close win over a limited contender. The rest of his career didn't prove those points. One performance isn't evidence, it is an indication. Same for those who project Bowe's best fight (Holyfield #1) or Douglas against Holyfield over a whole career. It just didn't really happen. The only thing Ike proved was that he was a heavyweight to watch.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    Tua is one of the hardest punchers ever and Ike took his shots flush and didn't blink...
                    Tua also has a better chin than mike... Mike has a really good chin but tua is one of the few heavys that has a better one.. Tua would never be hurt or knocked out by buster Douglas.. Tua took flush shots for prime Ike, Rahman, Lennox etc and never went down or even buckled.,..
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                    You are factually wrong on both. Ike was stunned and wobbling at the end of one of the later rounds, I believe it was the 11th. Tua hurt him badly and the bell saved him. Furthermore they were fighting in close quarters the whole fight and smothering eachothers punches and rolling with them. If he can be hurt he can be stopped like anyone else. And btw, his power was overrated, in some of Ike's other fights he almost looks feather fisted.

                    And Tua did go down by a left hook from Rahman that was seconds after the bell rung in the rematch so that's not true either. Ike stunned him with an uppercut at the end of one of the middle rounds. And although he was past his prime against Barrett, that knockdown he suffered has to count for something as well. Tua never took any sort of punishment like Tyson did against Douglass, he had better defense than he gets credit for, in fact he rarely took any power punches flush.

                    You are putting far too much into that one fight.

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