Foreman completely overrated as a puncher.

[Boxclever]

Fighting, Punching, Longevity, Grilling.

Come on he's got it ALL

[Dempsey1238]

I would have to disagree. The fights with Frazier was more of a head hunting trip for Frazier and although Frazier hits hard, it's not as hard as Foreman.

Also, the Foreman fight saw Ali getting beat on all sides, most especially to the body. You have to consider that Parkinson's is a disease of the nerves. the body shots that Foreman inflicted to Ali are more likely suspect than Frazier's head hunting ways.

Than you have not watch the Fraizer fights if you think it was more of a head hunting trip. Fraizer dug to the body vs Ali, more than Foreman did.

I think Fraizer had more to do with it, than Foreman imo. Foreman hardly landed a clean shot, as Ali was able to block with his arms vs Foreman. Fraizer got in, and dug to the body, working his way to the head.

[catskills23]

what proof is there that foreman hit harder than tyson ? .

[Southpaw Stinger]

what proof is there that foreman hit harder than tyson ? .

KO percentage, speed of knockouts, opposition etc.

A lot of guys hit harder than Tyson, Marciano, Shavers, Foreman, Dempsey etc.

[catskills23]

yeah but when foreman knocked someone they got up , when tyson knocked someone they usually didnt get up .

[Oasis_Lad]

yeah but when foreman knocked someone they got up , when tyson knocked someone they usually didnt get up .

because he fought weaker opponents!

[Heckler]

its not a condition of the nerves, its a NEURAL condition, its parkinsons syndrome a result brainstem trauma. What happens is the brain cannot communicate with the nerves properly, its a motorskills problem. Foreman landed some extremely hard blows to Ali's head, and that would of contributed.

[Kid Achilles]

Actually a lot of the time Tyson's opponents got back up, and they were worse opponents as well.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

problem is alot of really good fighters weren't tested the way others were

like the reason ppl think ali was good/ or they like ali is because he fought some of the best boxers ever, but then again he was also fighting when some of the best fighters were fighting, same thing with Foreman, but Tyson probably would have been tested better and been decided as a great or not if he fought then

there's the problem

[butterfly1964]

For some reason this comment reminded me of Foreman's fight with Boone Kirkman, when, at the opening bell, Big George ran across the ring and simply gave Kirkman a two-handed shove to the canvas to begin the fight...

I think I'll dig up the tape with that fight on it later on today and have a bit of a chuckle.

oh, yeah! i have that fight, lol!