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  • #41
    Originally posted by supaduck
    lol, do you even know who Herol Graham is before you make posts like that? He may not have seen it coming, but it was still the type of punch that would remove you from your senses. Tyson im sure being about 4 stone heavier than Jackson had more power behind his shots, but Jackson could do more damage to someone of his own weight. He technically punched harder than Tyson.
    Hhhhhh, its not harder than a Tyson punch and definitely not harder than a Shavers or Foreman. You said it was the hardest punch ever. I'll wipe my ass with that statement.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      foreman punches harder than shavers.
      Maybe Foreman hits harder to some young internet poster, but according to their common opponents Shavers was the harder puncher of the two, and I've posted their quotes before that backed that statement.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Yogi
        Maybe Foreman hits harder to some young internet poster, but according to their common opponents Shavers was the harder puncher of the two, and I've posted their quotes before that backed that statement.
        ali said shavers hit harder, cause ali was weaker when he fought shavers then when he fought foreman.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by butterfly1964
          ali said shavers hit harder, cause ali was weaker when he fought shavers then when he fought foreman.
          Hahahaha you have some lovely arguments.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            ali said shavers hit harder, cause ali was weaker when he fought shavers then when he fought foreman.
            Hmm, and I suppose you're going to find another excuse dismissing both Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle's opinion that Shavers hit harder than Foreman, as well, yes?

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            • #46
              Hhhhhh, its not harder than a Tyson punch and definitely not harder than a Shavers or Foreman. You said it was the hardest punch ever. I'll wipe my ass with that statement.
              haha, it's definitely harder than anything Tyson ever threw. Graham was knocked out for five minutes after that, I don't recall Tyson knocking anybody out for that long.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Yogi
                Hmm, and I suppose you're going to find another excuse dismissing both Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle's opinion that Shavers hit harder than Foreman, as well, yes?
                foreman wasn't at his best when he fought young and lyle.

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                • #48
                  I wouldn't rate Frazier's chin any better than Dempsey's. In fact Dempsey's chin seemed better in that he usually came back and KO'ed his opponent not long after he was rocked or knocked down whereas Frazier usually had a lot of trouble with opponents who knocked him down (Bonavena) or outright lost to them (Foreman, Ali in the second fight etc.) Frazier was mentally tough but his chin was an eight out of ten (perhaps a nine) and not even close to one of the best ever. Hell he didn't even have the best chin of his own era, let alone all time.

                  McCall, Jeffries, Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Quarry, Chuvalo, Galento, Tua, Uzcudan, Baer, Tyson, Cobb, and perhaps even Sam Peter just off the top of my head. I'd consider their chins (not neccesarily their ability to win fights or fight back from getting hurt but their innate ability to be unaffected by hard punches) better than Frazier's. If you want to say Frazier was one of the top three MENTALLY toughest fighters I'd agree but physically he didn't even have an all time top ten chin (for a heavyweight). In terms of P4P I don't know if his chin would crack the top 50.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by supaduck
                    haha, it's definitely harder than anything Tyson ever threw. Graham was knocked out for five minutes after that, I don't recall Tyson knocking anybody out for that long.
                    Well, Johnson was out on the canvas for quit some time and had his jaw broken. A few other guys i can't remember the names from.
                    This was a very hard punch but not the hardest ever.

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                    • #50
                      prolly the hardest punch is the 13th round knockout of jersey joe/marciano fight...

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