Who else could take a 74 Foreman.

[Southpaw Stinger]

The George Foreman young faced was different from the one Frazier faced. Foreman was a different fighter after Ali beat him, he held back a lot more and wasn't as aggressive.

[Yogi]

The George Foreman young faced was different from the one Frazier faced. Foreman was a different fighter after Ali beat him, he held back a lot more and wasn't as aggressive.

He was aggressive against Young, but Young was able to avoid his rushes for the most part, take him to the mid rounds where Foreman's stamina became a factor and proceeded take over the fight from that point on...

But if you want to excuse that, can you give just ONE example where Foreman was able to deal with/look good against a fighter using that type of style?

[Southpaw Stinger]

He was no where near as effectively agressive against young. You can see how he was always nervous of taking combo's or tiring himself out after Ali. A defeated Foreman had fears, an undefeated Foreman didn't.

How many fighter did Foreman fight like that anyway?

[butterfly1964]

He was aggressive against Young, but Young was able to avoid his rushes for the most part, take him to the mid rounds where Foreman's stamina became a factor and proceeded take over the fight from that point on...

But if you want to excuse that, can you give just ONE example where Foreman was able to deal with/look good against a fighter using that type of style?

well, that style would always give him trouble, but a prime foreman would still beat mostly anyone using that style anyways.

[Yogi]

well, that style would always give him trouble, but a prime foreman would still beat mostly anyone using that style anyways.

How can you say that Foreman would beat mostly anyone with that style, Butterfly...Based on what?

He only fought a few guys who used that style and he looked unimpressive against each one of them...Peralta, Young, and to a lesser extent Ali (for the first couple of rounds of that fight). He never once showed he could deal effectively with that style throughout his career (unless wins over a past it Light Heavyweight is impressive to you) and to suddenly make some claim that he would be able to in fantasy land would just be plain...well, you figure it out.

****, even the Chris Byrd from a couple/few years ago would have been a difficult test for "prime" Foreman.

[Kid Achilles]

This forum overrates Foreman so badly it is unbelievable. The fact is if Foreman didn't have his 90's comeback (where he didn't really beat anyone of note anyway) he would just barely be a top ten heavyweight. Stylistically he matched up well with Frazier and Norton but that alone doesn't make him a top three heavyweight IMO.

[butterfly1964]

How can you say that Foreman would beat mostly anyone with that style, Butterfly...Based on what?

He only fought a few guys who used that style and he looked unimpressive against each one of them...Peralta, Young, and to a lesser extent Ali (for the first couple of rounds of that fight). He never once showed he could deal effectively with that style throughout his career (unless wins over a past it Light Heavyweight is impressive to you) and to suddenly make some claim that he would be able to in fantasy land would just be plain...well, you figure it out.

****, even the Chris Byrd from a couple/few years ago would have been a difficult test for "prime" Foreman.

but he would still beat him, though.

[Yogi]

but he would still beat him, though.

And you can say that with confidence based on what again?

[butterfly1964]

And you can say that with confidence based on what again?

foreman wasn't really the bumbling idiot he looked like in the ali fight. he had some good boxing skils, one of the best jabs in boxing history, and he wasn't really slow-footed either.

[Yogi]

foreman wasn't really the bumbling idiot he looked like in the ali fight. he had some good boxing skils, one of the best jabs in boxing history, and he wasn't really slow-footed either.

Yeah, I've seen plenty of Foreman...And?

Byrd had a tricky & elusive boxing style that was proven to give Foreman fits even before and after the fight with Ali, so what is Foreman going to do effectively against Byrd that he wasn't all that capable of doing against others?