George Foreman vs. Lennox Lewis

[M26]

Lennox Lewis was huge and skillfull, but against the animal that was prime George Foreman, he would be destroyed. His less than stellar chin would be his early downfall. Foreman connects, and Lewis goes down for keeps.

George Foreman by ko2.

[tjmoney]

Theres a couple of things i just dont understand here, First the whole glass jaw theory. OK Lennox has been knocked out, but it was in 2 fights where he came in completely out of shape, especially the Rahman fight. But lets not forget that Foreman has also been KO'd, and that was when he was in peak physical condition. Foreman was also knocked down by Jimmy Young. So if we're being completely unbiased here wouldnt that mean the Big George also has a glass chin?

[tjmoney]

Which brings me to my next question, Ive heard a few people say that Lennox Lewis didnt have the power to hurt Big George, this would imply that Lennox didnt have the power of Ali or Jimmy Young, when you look at it like that does that statement really make any sense? Ill answer that for you, no it doesnt, none whatsoever. So if we level out the playing field and not use biased judgement, going by the comments that everyone has made we have a matchup between two glass jawed heavyweights with tons of power which would imply that the first person to be hit clean would be knocked out. But since Lewis is the taller, quicker fighter whose punches are more straight foreward as opposed to foremans wide swinging clubbing shots, odds are it would be foreman getting caught early and put to sleep. Now im not saying that i would necessarily pick lennox to win the fight, Im merely making the point that when it comes to George Foreman it appears that a double standard is always used where foremans weakness are overlooked, sometimes blatantly swept under the rug. All I ask is that you use the same standards for him as you would everyone else, I mean he was a great fighter but God he was not.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Foreman by KO3

Lennox has weight size reach but Foreman would just pummel lennox until there was nothing left
he really only needs 2 maybe three clean shots on lennox's chin but i'll give Lennox the B.O.D. and say his reach keeps foreman away and his defense keeps his chin relatively defended, but no way he can stand up to Foreman

[Stiv Rex]

i pick lewis, assuming prime vs. prime.
prime foreman from the 70's didnt have the defense to handle lewis's boxing skills. foreman gets the nod for 1 punch power, but lewis could end the fight with a good one at any time also.
70's foreman wouldnt know how to handle someone bigger and possibly stronger than him.
see, its difficult, because 70's foreman was obviously much better physically, and 80's & 90's foreman was a better (a little) boxer who still had to rely on his punch to win.
so take old foremans savvy and young foremans body and i still think lewis wins.

[Stiv Rex]

by the way, thats a good question for the historians in here. did foreman ever fight a guy who had him on height, weight and reach? how did he do?

and lewis didnt have a glass chin, remember he took a couple of BOOMING shots from tyson, if they didnt put him down then it wasnt his chin that was the problem. those losses were because of lack of conditioning and focus. he came back and took the same frigging shots from both mccall and rahman and look what happened so how does he have a glass chin??

[butterfly1964]

by the way, thats a good question for the historians in here. did foreman ever fight a guy who had him on height, weight and reach? how did he do?

and lewis didnt have a glass chin, remember he took a couple of BOOMING shots from tyson, if they didnt put him down then it wasnt his chin that was the problem. those losses were because of lack of conditioning and focus. he came back and took the same frigging shots from both mccall and rahman and look what happened so how does he have a glass chin??

lewis couldn't handle foreman's power if he couldn't handle rahman's.

[smasher]

lewis couldn't handle foreman's power if he couldn't handle rahman's.

Evander Holyfield who fought both men stated that Foreman was the strongest man he ever faced as well as the hardest puncher.

Holyfield's strength which we saw manhandle Tyson and move Lewis back didn't even try to outmuscle Foreman instead fighting on the balls of his feet and moving in and out.

Yes Lennox has the power to hurt Foreman.

No he wouldn't beat him.

George by 5th round KO.



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[MickyHatton]

Which brings me to my next question, Ive heard a few people say that Lennox Lewis didnt have the power to hurt Big George, this would imply that Lennox didnt have the power of Ali or Jimmy Young, when you look at it like that does that statement really make any sense? Ill answer that for you, no it doesnt, none whatsoever. So if we level out the playing field and not use biased judgement, going by the comments that everyone has made we have a matchup between two glass jawed heavyweights with tons of power which would imply that the first person to be hit clean would be knocked out. But since Lewis is the taller, quicker fighter whose punches are more straight foreward as opposed to foremans wide swinging clubbing shots, odds are it would be foreman getting caught early and put to sleep. Now im not saying that i would necessarily pick lennox to win the fight, Im merely making the point that when it comes to George Foreman it appears that a double standard is always used where foremans weakness are overlooked, sometimes blatantly swept under the rug. All I ask is that you use the same standards for him as you would everyone else, I mean he was a great fighter but God he was not.

You make some valid points here, if Foreman was so unbeatable why did he retire(first time) without regaining the title?
He retired in 77 after losing to Jimmy Young then came back 10 years later!
Lots on here dimiss Lewis as if he was a poor Champion, they talk about his losses to McCall and Rahman as if they actually proved anything significant, all it proved boxing wise was that any Heavyweight is always one punch away from defeat, Lewis by his own admission admitted he took both fighters way to lightly, thats his problem and he has to live with it after all if he had 'done the right thing' he would have had a flawless record.
But he came back and avenged those defeats.
He was a great fighter, he could box, had good handspeed and skills and could punch, on top of that he had the physique of a real heavyweight.
Some say he had a glass jaw, how? Look at his record, he fought puncher after puncher, like I said his only two losses came from his lack of motivation.
George Foreman was a great fighter but for some reason many view him through rose tinked glasses and rush out to by endorsed products believing he was this unbeatable machine, well he wasn't, check his record. look at the Foreman - Ali fight, great drama no arguments but where was the class and technical proof that Foreman was not one dimentional? After all his 'smash them to bits' theory didn't work what did he do? He carried on, and punched himself out, thus letting an underdog in Ali easily outsmart him!
I'm not saying Foreman couldn't have beaten Lewis, all I'm saying is that lets be realistic and not let the passage of time and the fluffing of the facts dictate an honest assessment!
This fight would IMO have been far closer than many on here would like to suggest!

[Heckler]

i pick lewis, assuming prime vs. prime.
prime foreman from the 70's didnt have the defense to handle lewis's boxing skills. foreman gets the nod for 1 punch power, but lewis could end the fight with a good one at any time also.
70's foreman wouldnt know how to handle someone bigger and possibly stronger than him.
see, its difficult, because 70's foreman was obviously much better physically, and 80's & 90's foreman was a better (a little) boxer who still had to rely on his punch to win.
so take old foremans savvy and young foremans body and i still think lewis wins.

Then your completely delusional. Lewis's boxing skills? Skills alone aren't going to neutralise Foreman, Ali picked Foreman apart all night and he kept coming. The 73-74, agressive, killer-instinct Foreman is the BEST version of foreman and this is noted by historians, his controlled style was less effective. Foreman would know how to handle a bigger man, he would pummel the living **** out of him. Dont think that young Foreman was inferior because Ali rope a doped him, he is the only fighter capable of doing that against Foreman. Foreman would absorb whatever Lennox threw at him, get him on the ropes and KTFO lennox. 74 Foreman was a SLUGGING MACHINE, skills alone aren't enough to neutralise big George, you need the ability to absorb massive punishment.