why were there no tall heavyweights......

[violaandme]

It's definitely not evolution and it's really not even selective breeding. It's mostly the environment in which people are growing up in: A combination of better nutrition and medical care ages 0-10 plus cleaner water to drink and cleaner air to breath. It allows kids to develop to their full potential instead of having their growth inhibited by malnutrition and childhood illnesses.

Here's the thing, that environment is only found in the developed world and that's where people have gotten taller. If you go to 3rd world countries where none of those advances can be found you'll find that people are still by and large the same height on average that they were 500 years ago. In the developed world we've gotten around 3" taller on average than we were 500 years ago.

Poet

I buy into a lot of this such as nutrition medical care but cleaner air not a chance the air quality world wide is worse than at any point since the earth was formed

[violaandme]

BGH Bovine growth hormone in our milks and cheeses girls sometimes get their periods as early as 7 or 8 years old now and this has been directly linked of course gov agencies say its fine so it must be

[bklynboy]

college. classical greek was a huge part of my curriculum at university. we had to have socio/political context from the period for it to make any sense. that was information given to me by a classics professor, who i can assure you knows more about the period than you do. 130 lbs was the average. these were tiny men.

if you're looking at buried bodies you're probably talking about nobility. the men in the entry level of the army in sparta [or anywhere else] were poorly fed, would be viciously overtrained by adulthood. they wouldn't be healthy and robust like the wealthy people who are being burried.


rofl @ your "picture evidence."

In a previous life I was a doctoral student in medieval history. The skeletons were not from tombs - they were from all the excavated skeletons.

[kiDynamite92]

Anyone who knows boxing knows Tyson was NOT an inside fighter!
He pressured and worked when his opponents backs hit the ropes but Tyson NEVER fought inside and he actually initiated most clinches when opponents got close when in the center of the ring!!! Once again your yaking but don't know what your saying!
Talent over rides size then you have natural power punchers who have great successes even with less talents (Foreman) Read & learn stop trying to impress you don't know squat! Ray

Tyson was a mid range counter puncher, he was square a lot of the time so he could get in his right hand fast enough. He would wait for you to throw, evade it and BOOM lights out with one punch. As he got older he became slower and his skills weren't as sharp, he also lost his evasiveness and he wasn't able to set his shots up fast enough, effectively he just became a bomber. i dunno why people think he's Frazier or something

[Bolo Punch]

u know what I mean u tit.

p.s, get a spoon and FEAST on my arse

[kiDynamite92]

Earl Hickey;

I am glad you said that because I have always been of the opinion that a shorter but powerfully built pressure fighter would be the most dangerous type to beat the giants. As seen with Sam Peter vs Wladimir Klitschko. My vision is of a prime Tyson like figure with the build, the power/chin and the speed accuracy and defence that Tyson had (relative to weight of course) but be around 6'2" and 230lbs prime! I think Wlad/Lennox would be toast! I am always scouting for such a body type and style of fighter in the hopes of finding the future "super Tyson" but as yet no avail!.

Dude no, stick to NSB. If Tyson was any taller he would lose his quickness and evasiveness, one of Tyson's greatest strengths was his height. Cus made him carry heavy bags to stop him from growing taller.

Tyson was physically perfect, he only fell short mentally.

[phallus]

Jack Johnson's nickname was the Galveston Giant, he was 6'1. There's your answer. Primo Carnera was 6'6 too, though he lost to Max Baer, Joe Louis, and Jack Sharkey.

When you look at beds from the 19th century and doors from buidings from that period, it's quite evident, that man has gotten taller. Whether or not that trend continues I cannot say, but it's doubtfull since the cause of the height increase can be attributed to better nutrition.

Today the nutrition is just fatter so I reckon the doors and beds in the next century doesn't have to be taller/longer. Just wider lol.

in 1944, the average sized man going into the army in the USA was 5'8" and 150 lbs, this was before the 1950's when we started putting more growth hormones into our food, after the 1950's the averge heights of men went up to 5'10", now it is probably 5'11". we are now getting heavy doses of bovine growth hormone and other hormones added to milk, beef and chicken which is likely making some of us bigger and taller

[kiDynamite92]

Don't really know how true that is, as most of the shorter heavyweights today fight the wrong style, someone like eddie chambers etc fighting on the outside is ridiculous

Now Chisora fights the right way for a shorter heavyweight, he beat up helenius and gave Vitali a few things to think about, now imagine a much faster, stronger, much harder hitting chisora and you have a fighter that can give klitschkos serious problems

it's about styles as much as size

Joe Frazier was small even in his day but he made it work for him



As did tyson

Now you're talking, but I think that chisora's size actually work against him. He's quite a big dude and makes him a bigger target, but he's still good. Would be way to generous to call him a poor man's Joe Frazier

[Cardinal Buck]

in 1944, the average sized man going into the army in the USA was 5'8" and 150 lbs, this was before the 1950's when we started putting more growth hormones into our food, after the 1950's the averge heights of men went up to 5'10", now it is probably 5'11". we are now getting heavy doses of bovine growth hormone and other hormones added to milk, beef and chicken which is likely making some of us bigger and taller

I know this might surprise you, but pretty much regardless of what hormone is being eaten, your body is gonna digest it as if it were generic protein. You aren't going to eat a small dose of cow growth hormone, which wouldn't even work on humans, and have it pass through the stomach in perfect form (after being cooked no less) and then be absorbed as growth hormone and incorporated into the body. It'll get denatured in the stomach and absorbed as generic amino acids.

[violaandme]

in 1944, the average sized man going into the army in the USA was 5'8" and 150 lbs, this was before the 1950's when we started putting more growth hormones into our food, after the 1950's the averge heights of men went up to 5'10", now it is probably 5'11". we are now getting heavy doses of bovine growth hormone and other hormones added to milk, beef and chicken which is likely making some of us bigger and taller

Exactly the reason right there period