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  • Sugarj
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    #11
    Originally posted by TBear
    Yet again I agree. When you consider what a fighter Qawi was back then and that Evander was only 11-0.
    Probably Holyfield's toughest assignment......and certainly a tough fight.

    But I think he suffered more at the hands of Rid**** Bowe in fight 1.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Sugarj
      Probably Holyfield's toughest assignment......and certainly a tough fight.

      But I think he suffered more at the hands of Rid**** Bowe in fight 1.
      As far as suffering goes you are right. Perhaps also in the Toney fight too.

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        #13
        Originally posted by TBear
        Yet again I agree. When you consider what a fighter Qawi was back then and that Evander was only 11-0.
        Holyfield spent some time in the hospital after that fight suffering from dehydration.

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        • SBleeder
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          #14
          Originally posted by Scott9945
          Holyfield spent some time in the hospital after that fight suffering from dehydration.
          And that was because of the old-school myth that drinking water between rounds makes a fighter slower. I remember reading about that incident when it happened. Holyfield came pretty close to actually dying- they had to give him multiple bags of fluids before they could produce even a drop of urine.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Capaedia
            I'm going to go for the curveball and say either Bert Cooper or John Ruiz.
            Pretty sure Qawi I or any of the Bowe fights were tougher than Cooper who he stopped or Ruiz.

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            • Sugarj
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              #16
              Originally posted by TBear
              As far as suffering goes you are right. Perhaps also in the Toney fight too.

              I felt the suffering was as much mental in the Toney fight despite the stoppage. Although taking into account Holyfield's advancing years, after round one James Toney boxed like the merged ghosts of Archie Moore and Jersey Joe Walcott. For me it was his finest performance at heavyweight......Its been a while since I last saw the fight but remember being very impressed at the time.

              But Rid**** Bowe caught Holyfield with some real sickeners. One uppercut nearly detached his head from his shoulders.....in round 10 from memory.

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              • rightsideup
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                #17
                Originally posted by young_robbed
                Pretty sure Qawi I or any of the Bowe fights were tougher than Cooper who he stopped or Ruiz.
                You are probly right but remember Cooper had Evander down and almost out in the same book I have Evander claimed that he was training for a large slow Italian fighter (damini) and was not prepared for Bert.

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                • mickey malone
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                  #18
                  Qawi for sure, but i'm surprised no one's mentioned Ricky Womack, a real handful, who beat him twice as an amateur.. Believe he went unbeaten as a pro , but to the best of my knowledge, killed himself with a gun in 2002.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Rockin'
                    hey Kneel, only people from this planet may answer......... Rockin'
                    let's see how you feel, when your kind are no longer on this planet.

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                    • mickey malone
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sugarj
                      I felt the suffering was as much mental in the Toney fight despite the stoppage. Although taking into account Holyfield's advancing years, after round one James Toney boxed like the merged ghosts of Archie Moore and Jersey Joe Walcott. For me it was his finest performance at heavyweight......Its been a while since I last saw the fight but remember being very impressed at the time.

                      But Rid**** Bowe caught Holyfield with some real sickeners. One uppercut nearly detached his head from his shoulders.....in round 10 from memory.
                      Fine description you give of Toney in 'that' fight, my friend.
                      I say 'that' because, inspite of Toney's excellence, it's always sad when an old warrior takes a beat down.. But somehow, it turned out to be, more the end for Toney, than it was for Holyfield..

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