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hey rightside, this thread immediatelhy got me thinkin about the story of these guys, like a book deal in the makin and one of the great things about boxin imo is the storylike progression of say a couple of bitter rivals or even a weight class in general. I remember seeing barerra on the way up against, I wanna say eddie cook but im not really sure but who ever it was, had some speed n was giving a good account of himself when on of barerra's quick fluid hard hooks took the wind out of him. within a couple years barerra fights kennedy mckinny n begins by taggin mckinny but suddenly mckinny tags back and it looks to me like barerra who aint used to being the second hardest puncher in there suddenly has to make an adjustment but he does make the adjustment utilizing movement and gradually beats mckinny down for a late rounds tko. within a couple years, barrera runs into some of poison jones power shots n loses to jones by tko which turns barerra into a more tentative fighter for a couple years and makes him just an above average fighter losing a rematch to jones. right about the same time morales fights Zaragoza for a belt. Zaragoza hurts morales early but morales tuffs it out and eventually beats zaragozas body to stop him later in the fight. now they fight each other and I don't know of a much better fight than that first fight. if anyone here hasn't seen the entire first barrera-morales fight, then I don't know wtf u waitin for. you wont see a better fight ever. anyways, they will fight twice more n I think they were ppv so u know how hightly ranked the two of them were. mix in morales win over pac, Barrera's wins over hamed n peden n the answer is yes they were top 10, p4p whatever u wanna call them,household names yadda yadda yadda
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Barera losing to Jones was just so weird. How!Comment
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Because Jones was actually a very good, underrated fighter. Incredible power (one of the real punchers of that era), good speed and was a pretty good boxer.Originally posted by Gatling View Post
It's not surprising. Barrera got hurt a couple of times and it put him off his game plan and the more he got hurt, the more he started to lose his ****. A real pity it was officially a DQ instead of the rightful KO it was, but I guess he also won the second fight on points so....Comment
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Yes, but his chin was so bad and his stamina was average. It amazes me that Barrera never even rocked him.Originally posted by BennyST View PostComment
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Your chin can suck and your stamina can be bad to but he knew he could beat him and hurt him so it boosted his confidence and adrenaline Prbly so he willed him self through it. Just my thought.Originally posted by Gatling View PostComment
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Morales>Barrera, but both were beatable fighters. They maxed out their potential and had great fights, but neither was even close to being as good as Jones, Whitaker, etc.Comment
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Every 5-10 years a fighter who is near impossible to beat comes along, u just named a couple of them p n rjj, now pbf. no barerra n morales were not in that category but they were the household name top 10 p4p types. as for poison jones, just my angle on it, he could punch n when he did hit barrera, that changed everything and one other thing, other than to the body, barrera hook maybe didn't carry that much power. he had to hit mckinny hundreds of times before finally beating him down, hit morales thousands of times n never stopped him and when he fought jones in the rematch, I remember clearly thinkin barerra might have won the decision all on the first half of the fight but toward the end of the fight he did land on jones without wobbling him n I thought it had something to do with his more noncommittal aggression lacking style of fighting that he seemed to go into after gettingstopped by jones. I tell you, I was pleasantlhy shocked at how he went balls out against morales. that first barerra morales fight was the second beginning of the legend of barrera.Comment
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